CHEATER CAUGHT! - Stop wasting money!!

So i just caught someone cheating. Went from a crappy team with 3/4 star players to having 30yo players with 9 stars. I'm guessing he has ilimited tokens since he's wasting it on 30y ST (he also has 5 more players that increased largely in quality - a 29yo that went to 180% for example).

How does nordeus let this happen and why do people still waste money on this game knowing that there are cheaters all over the place?

NOTE: DO NOT DOWNLOAD OR CLICK LINKS THAT DIRECT YOU TO TOKEN GENERATORS SINCE THESE ARE SCAMS AND YOU WILL MOST LIKELY GET MALWARE. BE CAREFUL!

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Originally Posted by WizPT

So i just caught someone cheating. Went from a crappy team with 3/4 star players to having 30yo players with 9 stars. I'm guessing he has ilimited tokens since he's wasting it on 30y ST (he also has 5 more players that increased largely in quality - a 29yo that went to 180% for example).

How does nordeus let this happen and why do people still waste money on this game knowing that there are cheaters all over the place?

NOTE: DO NOT DOWNLOAD OR CLICK LINKS THAT DIRECT YOU TO TOKEN GENERATORS SINCE THESE ARE SCAMS AND YOU WILL MOST LIKELY GET MALWARE. BE CAREFUL!

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It s called Player Academy manipulation, where you send your best players in player academy so that way you avoid facing tough opposition.
Those players are high in quality because of the gambling event called DRAW FRENZY, and they also get their trainers from DRAW FRENZY as well.....
People who actually manipulate the draw using this technique are actually the worst...

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Originally Posted by SuperDunk

It s called Player Academy manipulation, where you send your best players in player academy so that way you avoid facing tough opposition.

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I don't agree with PA manipulation. The players who are sent to coaches at the end of season, also counted in calculation of AvQ of best 14 players(confirmed by admins). This is abuse of big spender whale teams(150% and above) are getting very easy unfair draws for the next season as a huge thank of being loyal customer. Because there's not enough team around his quality to fill his season draw slots(league+cup+cl).

Nordeus should change +-1 lvl matching system in CL. All teams around 75-115% two teams are 155% and 163% on just day1, so not a single f..king chance was given to defend your previously won title.
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Hmmm


https://i.ibb.co/CP25bdL/Screenshot-...Top-Eleven.jpg

Fair enough for all competitor teams, isn't it?
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Well offcorse it is fair :) I mean there is only 1 winner obviously it sucks to lose but thats part of the game
IS "Managment" game so not everything is about matchday you must learn how to manipulate draws, which players to buy , how to train them , how to get resources how to how to

My hardest opponent this season is 50% while I'm 150%
Probably not fair but not my issue if they are inactive or don't know how to prepear for draws lol

And yeah I didn't cheat with any illegal means :)

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Originally Posted by Mitja fc

Well offcorse it is fair :) I mean there is only 1 winner obviously it sucks to lose but thats part of the game
IS "Managment" game so not everything is about matchday you must learn how to manipulate draws, which players to buy , how to train them , how to get resources how to how to

My hardest opponent this season is 50% while I'm 150%
Probably not fair but not my issue if they are inactive or don't know how to prepear for draws lol

And yeah I didn't cheat with any illegal means :)

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how to prepare for draws?

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Originally Posted by RaiKo

I don't agree with PA manipulation. The players who are sent to coaches at the end of season, also counted in calculation of AvQ of best 14 players(confirmed by admins). This is abuse of big spender whale teams(150% and above) are getting very easy unfair draws for the next season as a huge thank of being loyal customer. Because there's not enough team around his quality to fill his season draw slots(league+cup+cl).

Nordeus should change +-1 lvl matching system in CL. All teams around 75-115% two teams are 155% and 163% on just day1, so not a single f..king chance was given to defend your previously won title.
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I am pretty sure, 99.9% certain about what i stated above.
I respect other admins opinions but i have seen it with my own eyes.
I was placed with a Draw Frenzy abuser when i restarted playing this game 2 months ago while having 40% quality, he had 300+% after the first day of the new season.
I talked with the person and he told me what he did, hide his 300+% players in player academy to get a easier draw.
Same thing happened the following season where i was also placed with that guy. In the end i had to tank to get away from him, it is what it is.
I never hated anything they brought more in this game than Draw Frenzy....

I just caught a 142% player in my league where the average % of the teams must be around 102% and where there's even a 30% team (lol). He has 8 players above 160% in which two are +200%. Does nordeus think anyone is gonna waste money to watch this kid get 100% wins? This is going to be a boring season where people will join less often and maybe even quit the game.

I'm almost sure this is some sort of cheating and not people wasting money. I do believe that superdunk might be right. The team in my league that i was talking about has 8 players above 160% in which only 1 is 18yo, so i'm guessing he hid 7 (max slots i think) of those players in the PA and the 18yo came from youth academy.

what about teams that have multiple players (6, 8, 10) aged 18-20 and two skills, one of them special as set piece taker? How do you get so many players, so young, with skills that are not available all the time?

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Originally Posted by SuperDunk

I am pretty sure, 99.9% certain about what i stated above.
I respect other admins opinions but i have seen it with my own eyes.
I was placed with a Draw Frenzy abuser when i restarted playing this game 2 months ago while having 40% quality, he had 300+% after the first day of the new season.

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I understand your experience, but i honestly say that you can hide your actual AvQ for a period of time, but it's useless to get easy draws, sent players still involved in your entire squad. It's about the PA training will spill over into the next season.

As a proof you will be able to continue sending your players to PA even though there are 14 players left in your squad.
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...tml#post692695

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Originally Posted by Mitja fc

Well offcorse it is fair :) I mean there is only 1 winner obviously it sucks to lose but thats part of the game

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Ofc it's fair for you lucky boy as long as your parents credit card keeps you sponsoring your paid wins and 'fake' success in game. I don't care those managers how many trophies you win. I just respect all types of the way playing this game.

Well "RaiKo" obviously you need to find something or someone to blame for your own lack of succees...I am not saying it just for this game cuz this probably shows in other aspects of your life aswell but well thats not something I need to worry about
If you already get matched with tougher opponents than just beat them lol
Proof:
https://i.ibb.co/MDrCbPN/Screenshot-...Top-Eleven.jpg

(Both managers were present during this match)

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Originally Posted by vinim

how to prepare for draws?

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Well make sure you use low lvl subs 3* or lower only
Sell players you are planing to change before season end
Baisicly drop your subs quality as much as possible and on last day sell players from main 11 you wont be needing in new season...when season starts you just buy/train new one :)
Also make sure to save as many rest as possible so you can pump your team next season and again gain advantage

Offcorse there are other tricks but decided I won't share them here...doing above shall be enaugh :)

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Originally Posted by SuperDunk

I am pretty sure, 99.9% certain about what i stated above.
I respect other admins opinions but i have seen it with my own eyes.
I was placed with a Draw Frenzy abuser when i restarted playing this game 2 months ago while having 40% quality, he had 300+% after the first day of the new season.
I talked with the person and he told me what he did, hide his 300+% players in player academy to get a easier draw.
Same thing happened the following season where i was also placed with that guy. In the end i had to tank to get away from him, it is what it is.
I never hated anything they brought more in this game than Draw Frenzy....

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Dear Superdunk,

You cannot even ‘hide’ your players in the academy. Draws are made at season start, so the night between day 28 and day 1. As you may have noticed from the player academy, to trainings are possible that last longer than the current season. So at season start, there are no running academy trainings.
Whatever this manager told you, this is not the way he did it.

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Originally Posted by Guido van den Berg

Dear Superdunk,

You cannot even ‘hide’ your players in the academy. Draws are made at season start, so the night between day 28 and day 1. As you may have noticed from the player academy, to trainings are possible that last longer than the current season. So at season start, there are no running academy trainings.
Whatever this manager told you, this is not the way he did it.

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Yes, you can actually.
From what I have heard the guy I spoke to waited until the last day of the season to use the player trainings he got from the Draw Frenzy event, also he has 1* players to drastically reduce his rating,if you have let s say 28 players, you can send 14 in player academy with the trainings you got from the Draw Frenzy.
If it weren t for the Draw Frwnzy the guy would have had limited Player Trainings(or whatever they are called)....
I hate that event so much, my god...

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Originally Posted by Mitja fc

Well "RaiKo" obviously you need to find something or someone to blame for your own lack of succees...I am not saying it just for this game cuz this probably shows in other aspects of your life aswell but well thats not something I need to worry about
If you already get matched with tougher opponents than just beat them lol
Proof:
https://i.ibb.co/MDrCbPN/Screenshot-...Top-Eleven.jpg

(Both managers were present during this match)

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No offense, but friendlies are not the same as competition games (cup, CL and league).
The gap of winning between the teams is bigger in friendlies. What does this mean? Let s say a 80% team plays a 100% team, in friendlies they have a bigger chance of winning than let's say in the league or Cup/CL final.

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Originally Posted by RaiKo

I understand your experience, but i honestly say that you can hide your actual AvQ for a period of time, but it's useless to get easy draws, sent players still involved in your entire squad. It's about the PA training will spill over into the next season.

As a proof you will be able to continue sending your players to PA even though there are 14 players left in your squad.
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...tml#post692695

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Doesn t matter that the player academy star drops in the next season, for some reason the developers made the Player Academy sent players not count for the draw. Don t ask me why is that the case.
I recently explained that he used the FREE Player Trainings he got from the Draw Frenzy , in the last day of the season to "Hide" his players. That guy must be such a clown to manipulate on such high rating....
But it happened twice for me before, so i had to tank to get away from that manager with 300+% players....

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Originally Posted by Mitja fc

Well make sure you use low lvl subs 3* or lower only
Sell players you are planing to change before season end
Baisicly drop your subs quality as much as possible and on last day sell players from main 11 you wont be needing in new season...when season starts you just buy/train new one :)
Also make sure to save as many rest as possible so you can pump your team next season and again gain advantage

Offcorse there are other tricks but decided I won't share them here...doing above shall be enaugh :)

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You forgot the dirtiest manipulation: Hide your best players in the last day of the season with the player trainings you get from that cancerous event called Draw Frenzy, that way you don t have to sell anyone.

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Originally Posted by SuperDunk

Yes, you can actually.
From what I have heard the guy I spoke to waited until the last day of the season to use the player trainings he got from the Draw Frenzy event, also he has 1* players to drastically reduce his rating,if you have let s say 28 players, you can send 14 in player academy with the trainings you got from the Draw Frenzy.
If it weren t for the Draw Frwnzy the guy would have had limited Player Trainings(or whatever they are called)....
I hate that event so much, my god...

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Wow, I did not know that. If you play the draw frenzy many many many times, you will indeed earn many academy rewards. And you can use these on the last day of the season, I see that now.

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Originally Posted by WizPT

I just caught a 142% player in my league where the average % of the teams must be around 102% and where there's even a 30% team (lol). He has 8 players above 160% in which two are +200%. Does nordeus think anyone is gonna waste money to watch this kid get 100% wins? This is going to be a boring season where people will join less often and maybe even quit the game.

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Just want to give an update on my league. Cheater has 18 games 18 wins more than 100 goals scored and 0 (ZERO!) conceded. Thanks for an amazing season, nordeus! I'm having a blast! Hope you continue to find different ways to make this game look more like a casino and scam people than actually fixing problems. Cheers!

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Originally Posted by Mitja fc

Well offcorse it is fair :) I mean there is only 1 winner obviously it sucks to lose but thats part of the game
IS "Managment" game so not everything is about matchday you must learn how to manipulate draws, which players to buy , how to train them , how to get resources how to how to

My hardest opponent this season is 50% while I'm 150%
Probably not fair but not my issue if they are inactive or don't know how to prepear for draws lol

And yeah I didn't cheat with any illegal means :)

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Lol, haha i love this, management you say? Oh... Just click that tokens and academy card at the end of season and bully lower rate people? Management... Yea right, thats soooo complicated like einstein formula, wow.

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Originally Posted by WizPT

Just want to give an update on my league. Cheater has 18 games 18 wins more than 100 goals scored and 0 (ZERO!) conceded. Thanks for an amazing season, nordeus! I'm having a blast! Hope you continue to find different ways to make this game look more like a casino and scam people than actually fixing problems. Cheers!

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Just let them, at the end , those manipulator will go against manipulator, battle of "who the better manipulator"

Hi there, what is the Draw Frenzy event? Never heard or saw that - is it a regional thing? I´m here in Germany

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Originally Posted by Guido van den Berg

Dear Superdunk,

You cannot even ‘hide’ your players in the academy. Draws are made at season start, so the night between day 28 and day 1. As you may have noticed from the player academy, to trainings are possible that last longer than the current season. So at season start, there are no running academy trainings.
Whatever this manager told you, this is not the way he did it.

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Now i can say with 100% certain that @SuperDunk knows what he's talking about. I took screenshots of the cheater's team last night and today and i can confirm that he hid players between yesterday and today and already has them back and by doing this he managed to lower his average quality in more than 40%. I will confirm in 2 days if he is placed in a league according to his current avg quality or the one he had before getting back his best players.

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Originally Posted by Ralf Ruder

Hi there, what is the Draw Frenzy event? Never heard or saw that - is it a regional thing? I´m here in Germany

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It’s probably not offered in the EU because it’s considered gambling lol

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Originally Posted by WizPT

Now i can say with 100% certain that @SuperDunk knows what he's talking about. I took screenshots of the cheater's team last night and today and i can confirm that he hid players between yesterday and today and already has them back and by doing this he managed to lower his average quality in more than 40%. I will confirm in 2 days if he is placed in a league according to his current avg quality or the one he had before getting back his best players.

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I had to tank to get away from the guy abusing the player academy manipulation...
That is the only way to get rid of him unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by WizPT

I will confirm in 2 days if he is placed in a league according to his current avg quality or the one he had before getting back his best players.

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As expected he's in a much weaker league, it's according to the avg quality of the team he had when he hid his best players. He's playing against teams where there's a difference of more than 70% quality. Another season ruined for 13 players. Good job, nordeus!

This is fascinating.

I had no Player Academy Coaches available on last day.
Could you please post pictures WizPT?

@SuperDunk explained it already:

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It s called Player Academy manipulation, where you send your best players in player academy so that way you avoid facing tough opposition.
Those players are high in quality because of the gambling event called DRAW FRENZY, and they also get their trainers from DRAW FRENZY as well.....
People who actually manipulate the draw using this technique are actually the worst...

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Something i also noticed is that these cheaters move from their strong association to a crappy association on the night before a new season starts and then go back to their previous association on the first day of the season. What's the point of doing this?

long time i saying that moving 1-2 star players in start 11 for lowering power and having easier draw next season is cheat, unfortunatly, i do that as well, but only bcs i was tired to get leagues with 3+ teams who are 30 or more % stronger than rest of league and ending season with all wins with top scorer 80 gols top assistent and top.players, it can be easy solved if nordeus want it to do, just make leagues not based of lvl but of team power of 11 strongest players, counted academy players, unsigned and youths, like they do in asso, KoK or friendly championship and team up teams with similar power.

or second way is put trophie winners in leagues together and non trophie players in other leagues to allow more teams of winning trophies, but, to be honest, there soon be ppl who can find way to bend the rules and exploit it
p.s. many games ban players who exploit gameplay to get unfair advantage, no matter of how they spend to keep comunity healty, just saying

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Originally Posted by vinim

what about teams that have multiple players (6, 8, 10) aged 18-20 and two skills, one of them special as set piece taker? How do you get so many players, so young, with skills that are not available all the time?

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Spending huge in youth academy

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What level does a person have to reach in Draw Frenzy to get these academy trainings? Are you talking about level 60 rewards? Who could get so high to win them 14 times? You’d go bankrupt buying tokens…

set piece taker, blocker, etc, in youth academy? Where? Only in special sponsor.

Right now there is only one huge cheat/bug used by most of the top FAs and it seems Nordeus doesn't care. I mean the cheat with 1 start defence. Check all the top teams - they all have 3 defenders and their defenders in minus or close to 1%. It's really stupid that when you play against such defence you can not even make a single shot. And the biggest fails is to watch the animation with this 1* defender running quickly than 180%+ attackers and grabbing the ball.

Come one, Nordeus, wake up!!! bring the balance back to the game. It's not possible to have teams with general 200%+ attack, 180%+ middle and lower than 10% general defence.

Start fixing the bugs.