there is no word about 4-1-2-2-1 loop, i thought it was quite dangerous, but at my experience i beat it twice by Maple Leaf, 4-1 overall, 4 goal came from my mr/ml with red arrows. also i find Butterfly not really usefull against 442, couple of seasons it was real good counter, but now i got bad luck using this strategy, and game ends not so well as i expect - max is pretty close game with 50-50 ball possession. anyway good luck Incredipede for trying update old stats and sorry for my bad english