Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 41
Like Tree2Likes

Thread: 3 ST? Go defensive !

  1. #21
    Newbie Oded32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Israel
    Posts
    31
    Hey El-Duderino ,

    my brother also has a team and recently decided to move to classic 4-3-3 (4D-3MC-3ST) and set mentality to defensive , but it doesn't work as smoothly as you described so i wandered what were your other settings (man-to-man/zonal, type of passing, mixed/through center, tackling and so on....) .

    do you play with any arrows ?

    i useally play with 5-6 other formations so couldn't really advice him on the matter...


    Levski Jerusalem (click here to see my team) Season 22 -

    17 championships
    13 Champions league titles
    3 Cups

  2. #22
    Dreamer El Duderino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    403
    If he is the one using 3 ST he shouldn't be playing defensive.

    You should only play defensive when you are FACING 3 ST.

  3. #23
    Greek Forum Moderator nikolgiorgos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    17,714
    With 3 STs defensive mentality ?
    I 'm a rookie, not master in tactics like El or t11 but it doesn't seems logic to me
    Καλώς ήρθατε στο Ελληνικό φόρουμ
    http://forum.topeleven.com/%CE%93%CE...%B4%CE%B1.html

  4. #24
    Newbie Oded32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Israel
    Posts
    31
    Actually , in his case it makes sense to play defensive because the problem is this:

    he's lvl 12 , and he has 3 great strikers, 3 good MC . only 2 tokens , and a mediocre defense and goalkeeper .



    the question is how to make use of what he's got....
    Last edited by Oded32; 09-30-2014 at 03:24 PM.


    Levski Jerusalem (click here to see my team) Season 22 -

    17 championships
    13 Champions league titles
    3 Cups

  5. #25
    Dreamer El Duderino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    403
    If your offense is good, why would you play defensive? 4-3-3 is an offensive formation. Playing it defensive nullifies it totally!
    If you play 4-3-3, play it normal or attacking, not defensive.

  6. #26
    Newbie Oded32's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Israel
    Posts
    31
    I see what you mean EL-Duderino, and normally i would advise him the exact same thing , but the problem remains - everyone on the attacking side are great. but his defense is a bust.

    how can he make up for his mediocre defence?


    Levski Jerusalem (click here to see my team) Season 22 -

    17 championships
    13 Champions league titles
    3 Cups

  7. #27
    Dreamer El Duderino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    403
    By buying good free agent defenders?

    Just leave the defense as it is. Even low quality defense can stop big players (I live it every match). As long as the formation is good and can hold against the opponent's offense, it'll be good enough.

  8. #28
    Greek Forum Moderator nikolgiorgos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    17,714
    Ok, let’s talk about a senario.

    We have 2 teams (like the example) with one team 1star stronger (scout level) and the other 4-5*.

    Assuming that other conditions are “standard”, like –the morale/condition of both players, no bonus or max bonus both …
    Stronger team ‘ll have the real possession. If watching/not the match or tickets or friends , I believe it’s kind of “fake” possession.

    I have the sense that real possession is coming from the Q of the Middlefield players (talking about classic formations 4-4-2, ND, 4-5-1).
    The scout team is playing attack (not 3 STs), the 5* team is playing def (a kind of 4-5-1) /counter. The weak team hopping he’ll be lucky, his defense hold the opponent and in some counter he ‘ll score.

    The other scenario is that the weak team if see that the other player has only 3 DC (or DR-DC-DL) put 3 ST and attack.
    So, can we say that 3 ST is a counter against a stronger opponent with only 3 DCs ?
    Last edited by nikolgiorgos; 09-30-2014 at 03:41 PM.
    Καλώς ήρθατε στο Ελληνικό φόρουμ
    http://forum.topeleven.com/%CE%93%CE...%B4%CE%B1.html

  9. #29
    Dreamer El Duderino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    403
    3 DCs and a DMC just to make sure.

  10. #30
    Greek Forum Moderator nikolgiorgos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Posts
    17,714
    So you believe that the guy in my showcase, in the first page, did well playing with 3 STs instead of a 4-5-1 def. even if was 1* weaker ?
    That needs guts
    Καλώς ήρθατε στο Ελληνικό φόρουμ
    http://forum.topeleven.com/%CE%93%CE...%B4%CE%B1.html

Page 3 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast