CL SemiFinals and CUP SemiFinals - Possible first time 3 cup winner?

[SoMBrA]

Hello everyone!
I already won my league (many points ahead of second!) so I want to concentrate on cup and CL.

I managed to reach SemiFinal on both CUP and CL but now things start to get complicated...

I need some advice against a same quality team but 1 level above me (I'm level 5 - 40Q VS level 6 - 41Q)

CUP Game

He is using 5-3N-2ST formation, and I was planing 4-3N-1-2... what do you guys think?
I have many players so I could try almost any formation, just let me know what you guys think

CL Game

He is using 4-4-2 classic formation and I've always had trouble against that formation.... so I always ended up copying formation and managed to win/qualify for next rounds in CUP or CL!

His team is 38Q VS 40Q me...

Any help?
Thanks

[DiZZee]

Oh...you can handle them. After five months surely there can be no doubt to your team ability and tactics?
Do you know his strengths, weaknesses, history,players, changes, etc.
What are your strengths, weakness, health,subs, etc

Which off your players do you plan to change,when and why?

let's start there for now.

[TimYoung]

Cup game I'll go with 4132 instead of 4312. You can win the midfield battle with a dmc to clean up anything that gets through whilst he doesn't have a dmc for that safety. If you have an amc, it will just be nullified by his mid dc. When he plays with such a defensive formation, take advantage of his lack of numbers upfront rather than put more attackers to contest with his defenders.

CL game. Yeah, mirror him if you can and have a higher Q.

[SoMBrA]

Cup game I'll go with 4132 instead of 4312. You can win the midfield battle with a dmc to clean up anything that gets through whilst he doesn't have a dmc for that safety. If you have an amc, it will just be nullified by his mid dc. When he plays with such a defensive formation, take advantage of his lack of numbers upfront rather than put more attackers to contest with his defenders.

CL game. Yeah, mirror him if you can and have a higher Q.

I'm going to try 4132 as you suggested for away game and then I will see what to do for home game depending on the score.
I have good strikers, let's hope that they manage to score some goals hehe
Only concern is that I can't put into play any of my free kick specialists with this center formation...

About CL I will mirror formation and hope to get a win!

[SoMBrA]

Oh...you can handle them. After five months surely there can be no doubt to your team ability and tactics?
Do you know his strengths, weaknesses, history,players, changes, etc.
What are your strengths, weakness, health,subs, etc

Which off your players do you plan to change,when and why?

let's start there for now.

I think I have good defenders and attacker, but I don't think my midfield is that great...
I have AML - AMC - AMR and strikers ready to play a strong attacking formation if needed...

I was thinking switching to 3 DC - 2 MC - AML - AMR - AMC - 2 ST if things goes very bad, since he is only attacking with 2 ST and there are no AMC and he has 3 MC's so lack of wingers to attack!

[TimYoung]

I'm going to try 4132 as you suggested for away game and then I will see what to do for home game depending on the score.
I have good strikers, let's hope that they manage to score some goals hehe
Only concern is that I can't put into play any of my free kick specialists with this center formation...

About CL I will mirror formation and hope to get a win!

Oh. I dunno. I am not a fan of changing formation if it means playing your weaker players.

If anything, yeah, 3 at the back seems better against 532 since he has no amc nor wingers but I wouldn't put just 2 mc. You are giving him the midfield. Maybe 3132W1? Still think you should play your best players to fit a relatively good formation rather than shoehorn your players into a formation.

[TimYoung]

Oh if you are playing 4132, here is my guide.

http://forum.topeleven.com/tutorials...tml#post150110

Deffo play force counter attack to draw his defenders out and he does not have the numbers to score against you. DL/DR red arrow up or even better play dml/dmr or if both move dc back to 3 at the back or even lobsided dl dc dc dmr/mr/amr or dml/ml/dml dc dc dr.

[SoMBrA]

Great guide you posted m8!

I think I'm ready for the game, I will post result later!

I will play force counter attack and I've aligned players as you suggested to see if it really makes a difference (I'm playing against a higher quality team this time with some 6* and 7* player)

I don't understand what you said about DML/ML/AML - DMR/MR/AMR, you think is better to play asymetric at one side?

For example
GK - DC_DC_DC - MC_MC_MC - AML - ST_ST

[TimYoung]

Play your best players.

In terms of dml/ml/aml etc.. because he has no wingers apart from his full backs, it is better to play wingers rather than full backs to attack him. You don't need full backs to defend. The reason for asymmetric is if you want to play two dcs. If you have both sides with wingers, you can't have just 2 dc at the back since that will be illegal formation but you can have just dl dc dc or dc dc dr at the back.

I guess 33N2W2 could work but I think that is way too offensive formation against a better team then you. Rather 313N2W1 instead. You can play with one upfront if you have 2 wingers.

[TimYoung]

Oh, to play force counter attack. What you are doing is to give them the ball to attack you and when you get the ball back, his players would be outta position and you counter to score in the transition.

Why 33N2W2 is too offensive to play force counter attack. Because if you give him the ball, his likely to score whereas with 313N2W1, you are more than likely to get the ball back as you have the dmc as safety to sweep up and three defenders for his 2 strikers. You can't play force counter attack with an offensive formation as that would be suicide. His mcs can do long shots against you to score if you don't have a dmc in place.