A question for players on high lvl... How do you think about "counter formations"?

[Biggie Siang]

Regarding counter formations, I take it as just guides. I see what my team is comfortable with. Like season 1 till 3 my team was liking attacking mentality. So i carried attacking mentality to season 4, i dropped out of no 7 in the league mid through the season and barely made it through league stage in CL.

I tried defensive mentality and normal mentality, it worked and manage to save myself up to 3rd in the league and 2nd in champions league. Orders plays a big part. One of my Top Eleven mate only plays 4-4-2 and had success going into every season either winning, 2nd or 3rd place with almost minimal losses... I asked him and he told me, Orders seems to play a big part.. He learnt that in season 2... I only learn at season 4..

So I shall say, take counter formations as a guide only but look at the opponents and compare with counter formations. I like to make use of arrows cause they could work (with the right team).

I also found out that arrows works best with players that can play the positions the arrow points too and it is really effective!

Anyway i am just level 5, I just share what i have found out in the game. Don't flame me!

[minz90]

Yes That's right. I ve an 4-4-2 team on lvl 6 that is also Hard to beat. I dont watch the games. No arrows. Normal, mixed, own half, Short, hard, zonal. Very Balanced. It can help you If you cannot watch the games

[minz90]

And if the opponent scores first unmark the counter attack ?

Yes you should unmark counter attack

[Tactician]

minz90, what orders would you use for 4-3-2W-1?

[minz90]

minz90, what orders would you use for 4-3-2W-1?

You can try normal, mixed or down both flanks, own half, mixed (+ counter attack) or short when you cannot watch the games, normal or hard, zonal.

Arrows: i always Start without.
You can try. Red on dl and dr + sometimes blue on middle mc.
Or Red on aml and amr + sometimes Red on st when He doesnt strike

There are also some other Option when you want to press whole pitch. Whole pitch is Not successful against some opponents. Your victories can be higher or lower

[Tactician]

You can try normal, mixed or down both flanks, own half, mixed (+ counter attack) or short when you cannot watch the games, normal or hard, zonal.

Arrows: i always Start without.
You can try. Red on dl and dr + sometimes blue on middle mc.
Or Red on aml and amr + sometimes Red on st when He doesnt strike

There are also some other Option when you want to press whole pitch. Whole pitch is Not successful against some opponents. Your victories can be higher or lower

I'm considering using that formation against a team that uses a modified 4-3-3. Do you think that it will work?
see forum thread: http://forum.topeleven.com/formation...argin-2-a.html

[minz90]

I'm considering using that formation against a team that uses a modified 4-3-3. Do you think that it will work?
see forum thread: http://forum.topeleven.com/formation...argin-2-a.html

Yes why Not. I ve beaten 4-3-3 with 4-5-1 v, 4-2-3-1 and 4-4-2.
But I ve beaten mourinhos 4-3-2-1 with 4-3-3. Result 6:0. Normal, middle or mixed, own half, Short, hard, zonal. When I play long balls i only Win 1:0. Hope this experience will help you.

I think mourinho plays normal, mixed, own half, mixed, normal, zonal.
Maybe That means you should play short to get more possesion. Otherwise the opponent will get lots of balls at his strikers when you play mixed , because you will lose more balls.

[Tactician]

Yes why Not. I ve beaten 4-3-3 with 4-5-1 v, 4-2-3-1 and 4-4-2.
But I ve beaten mourinhos 4-3-2-1 with 4-3-3. Result 6:0. Normal, middle or mixed, own half, Short, hard, zonal. When I play long balls i only Win 1:0. Hope this experience will help you.

I think mourinho plays normal, mixed, own half, mixed, normal, zonal.
Maybe That means you should play short to get more possesion. Otherwise the opponent will get lots of balls at his strikers when you play mixed , because you will lose more balls.

Thanks. So, I won't be using this formation; I need another formation.

[Tactician]

minz90, what is the strongest orders to play a 4-3-3 against the modified 4-3-3 that I have mentioned in the other thread?

[minz90]

minz90, what is the strongest orders to play a 4-3-3 against the modified 4-3-3 that I have mentioned in the other thread?

When I play 3-5-2 v , i always go attacking, Mixed , full pitch, Short, hard , zonal. No counter no offside. I always Start with Red arrows on aml and amr. Sometimes you only need on Single Red arrow on your Best striker.
I think this formation is what you need in your case.