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    Hi sdw,

    Thanks for the great thread. It has helped me in advancing my team. Wonder if you have any counter formations for 3N-1DMC-4FLAT-2 and 5FLAT-1DMC-3MC-2? Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pegasus FC View Post
    Hi sdw,

    Thanks for the great thread. It has helped me in advancing my team. Wonder if you have any counter formations for 3N-1DMC-4FLAT-2 and 5FLAT-1DMC-3MC-2? Thanks in advance!
    First formation : This formation is made to counter stron AMC and attack the flanks.This formation is counter-attack of 4-3N-1-2.When someone has 3N (DC's) and doesn't have any wings,you can counter him with AML/AMR.4-3N-2(AML/AMR)-1 is good for countering this formation.4-5-1 V style is good too.The best which I can suggest you is the butterfly - 3 DC's,DML and DMR,2 MC's,AML and AMR,Striker.

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    sdw i have another important question,tomorrow i play final with stronger than me,he use 4-3N-1-2, how to counter this?i think about 451V or 442ND...need ur help and thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadowskianaya View Post
    sdw i have another important question,tomorrow i play final with stronger than me,he use 4-3N-1-2, how to counter this?i think about 451V or 442ND...need ur help and thx
    Dont use 451V.There is no sense but everytime I use 451V vs. this formation I loose from weaker opponents.Try 3DC's,DMC,ML,MC,MC,MR,2 ST(or AMC and one ST).

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    3DC's?and he have strong 2ST's??

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    what about 4-1-3N-2?

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    Butterfly - 3 DC,DML and DMR,2 MC's,AML and AMR,one ST.Attack him from the flanks.He doesn't have chances even he's more stronger than you.4-1-3N-2 is the easiest formation to counter.

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    Great job.

    Using your phillosophy about counter formations, I am trying to imagine which formation would be more effective to fight against next formation.....

    DR---DC---DL
    -----DMC----
    MR---MC---ML
    ---AMC-AMC--
    ------ST-----


    (reverse)

    ------ST------
    ---AMC-AMC--
    ML---MC---MR
    -----DMC-----
    DL---DC---DR
    (-----GK-----)

    Maybe it can be called a (christmas) tree.

    Allways supossing could be using attacking arrows for middlewings.

    Any suggestion from you?
    My suggestion trying to use your phillosphy as I understand, could be next ones...
    having not any MR and not any DMR at my list players (I have for the others positions)

    with 3 strikers...

    --ST-ST-ST--
    --------------
    ---MC--MC---
    ---DMC-DMC-
    DL---DC---DR

    with red arrows for wingsbacks?

    or better...

    with 2 strikers

    ---ST---ST--
    --AMC-AMC--
    -----MC-----
    --DMC-DMC--
    DR---DC---DL

    and again red arrows?

    or...

    ---ST---ST---
    --------------
    ML---MC---(MR) (dont have MR but may be using it excepcionally)
    --DMC-DMC---
    --DC-DC-DC--


    red arrows for middelwingers?

    or just enought 1 st with 2 amc maybe like this...

    ------ST------
    --AMC--AMC--
    ML---MC---(MR)
    --DMC--DMC--
    --DC-DC-DC-- (or DL---DC---DR)

    red arrows at middlewingers?

    Some of these looks like a tree as well.

    Thank you if still are answering at this thread.

    Cheers.
    Last edited by LesterMind; 05-30-2013 at 04:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterMind View Post
    Great job.

    Using your phillosophy about counter formations, I am trying to imagine which formation would be more effective to fight against next formation.....

    DR---DC---DL
    -----DMC----
    MR---MC---ML
    ---AMC-AMC--
    ------ST-----


    (reverse)

    ------ST------
    ---AMC-AMC--
    ML---MC---MR
    -----DMC-----
    DL---DC---DR
    (-----GK-----)

    Maybe it can be called a (christmas) tree.

    Allways supossing could be using attacking arrows for middlewings.

    Any suggestion from you?
    My suggestion trying to use your phillosphy as I understand, could be next ones...
    having not any MR and not any DMR at my list players (I have for the others positions)

    with 3 strikers...

    --ST-ST-ST--
    --------------
    ---MC--MC---
    ---DMC-DMC-
    DL---DC---DR

    with red arrows for wingsbacks?

    or better...

    with 2 strikers

    ---ST---ST--
    --AMC-AMC--
    -----MC-----
    --DMC-DMC--
    DR---DC---DL

    and again red arrows?

    or...

    ---ST---ST---
    --------------
    ML---MC---(MR) (dont have MR but may be using it excepcionally)
    --DMC-DMC---
    --DC-DC-DC--


    red arrows for middelwingers?

    or just enought 1 st with 2 amc maybe like this...

    ------ST------
    --AMC--AMC--
    ML---MC---(MR)
    --DMC--DMC--
    --DC-DC-DC-- (or DL---DC---DR)

    red arrows at middlewingers?

    Some of these looks like a tree as well.

    Thank you if still are answering at this thread.

    Cheers.
    i think that the main weakness is the wide defensive line. Therefore I would go 4-3-3 or 4-3-2-1 or 4-2-3-1 (narrow AMs).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LesterMind View Post
    Great job.

    Using your phillosophy about counter formations, I am trying to imagine which formation would be more effective to fight against next formation.....

    DR---DC---DL
    -----DMC----
    MR---MC---ML
    ---AMC-AMC--
    ------ST-----


    (reverse)

    ------ST------
    ---AMC-AMC--
    ML---MC---MR
    -----DMC-----
    DL---DC---DR
    (-----GK-----)

    Maybe it can be called a (christmas) tree.

    Allways supossing could be using attacking arrows for middlewings.

    Any suggestion from you?
    My suggestion trying to use your phillosphy as I understand, could be next ones...
    having not any MR and not any DMR at my list players (I have for the others positions)

    with 3 strikers...

    --ST-ST-ST--
    --------------
    ---MC--MC---
    ---DMC-DMC-
    DL---DC---DR

    with red arrows for wingsbacks?

    or better...

    with 2 strikers

    ---ST---ST--
    --AMC-AMC--
    -----MC-----
    --DMC-DMC--
    DR---DC---DL

    and again red arrows?

    or...

    ---ST---ST---
    --------------
    ML---MC---(MR) (dont have MR but may be using it excepcionally)
    --DMC-DMC---
    --DC-DC-DC--


    red arrows for middelwingers?

    or just enought 1 st with 2 amc maybe like this...

    ------ST------
    --AMC--AMC--
    ML---MC---(MR)
    --DMC--DMC--
    --DC-DC-DC-- (or DL---DC---DR)

    red arrows at middlewingers?

    Some of these looks like a tree as well.

    Thank you if still are answering at this thread.

    Cheers.
    Reverse tactics are not the countering formations.If he has strong DMC,why you put AMC?Put AML and AMR.The philosofy is to fill your defense according to his attack and use your attack according to his holes in the defense.For an example : he has strong DMC,your AMC is not necessary.He doesn't have DL and DR,so use AML and AMR.Or for an example in the defense : he has strong AMC,always use DMC in that case.Or he has AML and AMR.Use DL and DR without arrows or blue arrows.

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