There should be relegation of teams

[redsnoopy]

So as to make it more realistic

[Dman2pt]

There was already a thread about this a few days ago.

Why creating a New one.

[dv8r]

Disagree.. If teams are gaining a star from relegation then I give a huge -1. Too easy to manipulate.

[redsnoopy]

Nope, why should they gain a star? The players are just given their stars back.

Disagree.. If teams are gaining a star from relegation then I give a huge -1. Too easy to manipulate.

[dv8r]

Nope, why should they gain a star? The players are just given their stars back.

Why? Because you are transitioning between levels. You already lose a star when getting promoted. Keeping stars would not work either, let me explain.

Speaking from level 13 perspective. A 5* player with 81 quality is in my team. Now at level 13, 5* indicates a player with rating 80-84. Now I would get relegated with that player. He would be 5* with the same quality bracket in level 12. Is simply isn't possible to have a 5* player with 80-84 quality in level 12, he would have to be 6*. Do you see what I mean? The player would have to GAIN a star so that it reflects the quality and star ratings of the lower level. That's why they have to gain stars... or lose 5 quality and you know how people would react to that!

[redsnoopy]

Nothing wrong in gaining a star as it reflects reality. Eg if Rooney from Man U drops together with Man U to the lower league, his 5 star ability in upper league has to be reflected correctly as six star in lower league, if not, there is no difference between him and a weaker 5 star lower league player who was already in the lower league. Rooney's relative skills in lower league compared to the players in lower league is much more pronounced there

Why? Because you are transitioning between levels. You already lose a star when getting promoted. Keeping stars would not work either, let me explain.

Speaking from level 13 perspective. A 5* player with 81 quality is in my team. Now at level 13, 5* indicates a player with rating 80-84. Now I would get relegated with that player. He would be 5* with the same quality bracket in level 12. Is simply isn't possible to have a 5* player with 80-84 quality in level 12, he would have to be 6*. Do you see what I mean? The player would have to GAIN a star so that it reflects the quality and star ratings of the lower level. That's why they have to gain stars... or lose 5 quality and you know how people would react to that!

[dv8r]

Nothing wrong in gaining a star as it reflects reality. Eg if Rooney from Man U drops together with Man U to the lower league, his 5 star ability in upper league has to be reflected correctly as six star in lower league, if not, there is no difference between him and a weaker 5 star lower league player who was already in the lower league. Rooney's relative skills in lower league compared to the players in lower league is much more pronounced there

Nothing wrong with that? There's everything wrong with that, technically speaking one could "tank" for 5 seasons in a row, get relegated 5 times and have a fully 9* team that's wrecking **** in the level. Then when they get promoted, they'll get an easy run in the CL as well.

Now you compare that with someone spending money to get a good team and someone exploiting a relegation system to get a good team.

[4am]

...technically speaking one could "tank" for 5 seasons in a row, get relegated 5 times and have a fully 9* team that's wrecking **** in the level.

Notwithstanding that playing for one season in every six would be utterly pointless, that could never be.

Every time you dropped a division/level through relegation your players would gain a star by the proposed system. For your example to work 6*, 7* and 8* teams would have to be relegated first - which is extremely unlikely to happen!

[littledude072]

not to mention, who would spend a few months just to get better going back and forth between leagues when they couldve gotten much better by getting promoted the previous seasons? promotions mean more money and skill points. i think not making the CL is punishment enough for some people. lower the promotion to just 4, and probably 3-4 demotees should be good enough
you should know this well that tanking a season doesnt automatically mean youll be 1st in last place. as with the other random 80-20% somehow the illegal formations could win, and probably get promoted

[Marc Symons]

dV8r is spot on - It wouldn't work, and his explanation is exactly what i was thinking.