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    What some of my old "friends" did

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    LEVEL 23 SEASON 28 CH.L.
    A bad surprise was waiting for me
    Tanking of previous season (26) was wasted as in my CH.L. draw, half of the teams are 1 lv above me.
    http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...aw-system.html
    ( #14 is the relative pics )

    It looks like a new "trick" by the system and not a random, "unlucky" draw.
    So, even if I had a strong team from tanking, I didn't make it to pass to semi finals as most of my oppo had same or better quality and i had also this "bad" day with 2/2 ,100% efficiency, in the 2nd leg.

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    LEVEL 23 SEASON 28 CUP

    I won the Cup (using the classic tactic)

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    LEVEL 23 SEASON 28 - The team
    First day of the season of course, I made the right transfers for the team
    You can read here a post about the 1st day
    http://forum.topeleven.com/tutorials...film-noir.html

    The last days of the season (as usual), I was start selling my players so to keep the "right stuff" for the next season.
    The young fast trainers with high q and some low q.
    All those high q players are early 7* and the 1* , are less than 1* as they are old 0T academy players for many seasons.

    ΝIK F.C.    A Brazilian team from Greece-selling-team-d24.jpg

    Those are the old youngsters who retired this season
    ΝIK F.C.    A Brazilian team from Greece-retired-fragoulakis.jpg

    ΝIK F.C.    A Brazilian team from Greece-retired-panagiotidis.jpg



    and some really good players who contribute a lot
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    ΝIK F.C.    A Brazilian team from Greece-sell-lucas-mura.jpg

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    RONALDO was the star of the season
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    but NILMAR looks that has some great future too
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    LEVEL 23 SEASON 28 - The League

    As the target is my 8th treble and not another league, I decided for strategy reasons, not to won the league but get the 2nd position so to avoid a CH.L. with teams +1 lv.
    So, near the end of the season, I lost some game on purpose and gave the title to my runner-up and "friend".
    Ok, not so good friend
    http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...r-part-ii.html

    ΝIK F.C.    A Brazilian team from Greece-league-last-day.jpg

    some players in top rated
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    The finance of the season were great too
    ΝIK F.C.    A Brazilian team from Greece-finance-d28-2.jpg
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    Strategy – management – tactics part I
    Answering a question of a friend (Al) about if it’s worthy to give sa or extra position instead of quality, I can say few things here where you can see also the roster at the next post.
    The advantage of giving extra positions (like DC+DMC+MC, DL-DC+DR, DL-DC+DMC, MC+AMC, ST+AML-AMR, ML-AML+ST ) for me :

    1) I can keep a small roster (the basic squad), so I can keep permanently 6 positions for the (less than) 1* players – the 0T academy youngsters , so to lower my quality for the upcoming Cup draw.
    I keep those players for many seasons (from 18 y.o. to their retirement) so the q avg of the team, gives me Cup opponents from 2-3 levels bellow.

    2) I can do a good coaching during the game as I can switch to any formation without doing any sub.
    Also I can switch the players (DC to DR or DC to DMC or from ST to winger) if I see that a player doesn’t performing well.
    Or just shaking the tree if I see that the game flow isn’t good.

    3) I can find a better position for a player I bought, than his “natural”. As you know, I go for the nordgens the first day of the season but after that, it’s not so easy to find them.
    So, if I bought a fast trainer ST but he doesn’t score, he can be excellent as a winger so I rarely disregard in the middle of the season players I bought .

    4) I can do a better rotation when I have some loss from cards or injuries (saving some reds too).

    5) The players of this small basic roster have more participation in games so the ‘re gaining more and get a higher quality in the end of the season.

    6) Also maybe the team has a better “chemistry” as those players have played many games together (but that’s questionable ).

    7) When I ‘m buying a defender without sa (if he has a useless sa like penalty specialist or C-K/F-K, I prefer to go for another), I give them “aerial” or “defending wall”.
    Those are the perfect sa for defenders and I see them working almost in every game. Sure it’s worthy
    Some others like F-K , C-K are questionable and I prefer to give a test before I give them.

    8) If I see a fast trainer (or a simple player) with sa, I prefer to go for him even if I don’t know that his sa is “working”.
    Those players with extra roles or sa it’s very easy to sell them the last 1-2 days of the season so to be ready for the next Cup draw.


    The managerial plan of the team is to have/get 8 fast trainers + 6 very low q players the first day of the season. Then I buy some new fast trainers to replace the guys who ‘re getting older and gonna be sold at the end of the new season.
    Then I also buy some 5* nordgen or veterans doesn’t matter as they ‘re gonna be sold also at the end of the season.
    I don’t give quality sp to those 5* veterans because if they ‘ll be _0 or _5 6* players, it’s not gonna be easy to sell them.
    So I add an extra role or a sa and keep them as 5*.

    The 5* fast trainers, besides their new sa or role or both, at the end of the season can easily reach the 7* (I mean without many extra sources).
    If I would go only for the q, after the 7*, the would need much more greens to improve.
    Then, the next season they are 5* or early 6* and they start gaining a lot as their quality (stars) dropped from the next lv promotion.
    Doing this circle, doesn’t need so many greens.

    Only some seasons when I ‘m tanking, I keep many nordgen or train some to late 7*.

    Tanking from time to time is a good strategy to save extra sources and develop more your nordgen.

    An extra role and a sa need about 100 greens for a fast trainer.
    As I buy 18 y.o. players and keep them for 4-5 seasons, that means 20 extra greens per season.
    So, it’s not so big the number but still needs extra sources (farming or buying).

    The high quality doesn’t make a player good performer too.
    As Khris wrote somewhere and I agree, a 6* player can deploy almost all his talent in the field. If a ST of 6* can’t perform and scores, if make him 7* or 8* I don’t think (and didn’t see any example so far) he ‘ll start scoring.
    Only if you have a super team of 8*-9* players, with their high quality can dominate the games and get higher rates.

    A 6* players team was good enough for me so far, to win many titles (doubles and trebles).
    When I found some 8* teams, I fought as I could but as they were active players too, I stayed in the same level as I had to face them in every season.
    I didn’t have the sources to make my team 8* too and even if I could, the result would be doubtful.

    You can see previous posts from older seasons and finals and see what I mean.

    The next seasons, for me, the target is to win 3 more trebles and get the lv3 Treble achievement (win 10 trebles).
    After that, I ‘ll see what will be the next challenge.

    So, if you have extra sources, yes it’s worthy .
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    Strategy – management – tactics part II

    As I said, usually my 6* players have enough quality to move on and go for the finals and the titles.
    But I don’t count to luck for this.

    I ‘m doing specific strategic movements.
    For the Cup draw, I wrote above.
    Also I follow this guide
    http://forum.topeleven.com/tutorials...w-win-cup.html

    For the CH.L., in previous season I had a tough draw, playing with teams +1 lv, so I lost the 1st position of league on purpose, to have an easier CH.L. draw this season and I did it.
    I ‘m in a CH.L. where all the teams are from positions 2-4 and they don’t have so much strong teams.

    Also in the league, last season I sold a player with negotiations.
    LUCAS MOURA
    ΝIK F.C.    A Brazilian team from Greece-league-oppo-dany-lucas-moura.jpg

    * this season, my ex-player

    I accept the offer (2T) of a manager, Dany, who didn’t promote.
    I checked his team. Perfect for a League company
    ΝIK F.C.    A Brazilian team from Greece-league-oppo-dany.jpg

    It was weak, with old players, bad finance and low q facilities, so I send him friend request.
    This season we ‘re playing together (as the friendship is a priority in the league).
    Also the other teams aren’t strong and the title was secure 99% from the first day.
    STEAUA - the runner up
    ΝIK F.C.    A Brazilian team from Greece-league-oppo-duda.jpg

    Only in the CH.L. maybe I ‘ll have a couple of tough games but not from better quality teams.
    So I can see my 8th treble coming

    Let’s see the plans about the roster.
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    This is the team day 6.

    ΝIK F.C.    A Brazilian team from Greece-team-day6.jpg

    When the season starts, I ‘m making the plans for the next season.
    - Players in the red box gonna stay as they ‘re young fast trainers (7 players).
    - RONALDO also gonna stay as he is a super star and he still gaining a lot even for his age.
    - The players in the orange box, also gonna stay as they are the (lower than 1*) players I keep for the Cup draw.
    - Thamnidis is getting retired so it’s only the other six.

    Players who I ‘m gonna sell the last days.
    - Georgiev , a veteran defender. I keep him in 5*
    - Sahia, the GK (usually I don’t keep GKs). Also keep him as 5*
    - Danillo, the 21 y.o. defender (as my defense is set with 4 young players)
    - Douglas, the 22 y.o. Winger –ST. I already have 3 wingers- ST who I can rotate.

    During the season, I ‘ll decide if I ‘ll keep DUNGA or HERNANDES, who are 21 y.o. and next season the ‘ll slow down in gaining or COUTINHO, a 18 y.o. fast trainer.
    He needs extra greens but I ‘ll wait to see his performance in the field too.
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    Great stuff Niko!!
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    Hehe, I just discovered this thread (and this section of the boards, had missed it). what a gold mine!

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