Cup changes

[cookizzz]

This is just a slight change. I don't object as I also believe it can avoid manipulation. But my team will be a victim as I cannot enjoy this old rule for once.

One of my teams will finally manage to have 1 low quality (will be 1 star) in top 14 signed player in next season. This is the first time in history of my 2 teams. This is a result of comparatively inactive in transfer market for 2 seasons. Now I know my hope for slightly better drawing have been destroyed because the low quality player will not be included in top 14 if the out-of contract players are counted.

I am unhappy for this personal reason.

[El Pistolero]

Tactician, you don't shy away from using the word cheating. After many, many seasons being put against teams divisions higher than myself, pitching me against world-class/superstars while I struggle to get most 5*s I have resulted to cheating (manipulating). Not to pick off easy, absent teams but to face fairer competition so I know if I win or lose, it's down to me, my squad and my tactics.

This is a polite question with no offence taken, I just wonder if you view manipulating the Cup to fairly win 2 trebles in a row after many seasons of unjust tournaments. Do you feel I haven't earned my achievements?

If everyone shares that view then I may aswell just quit.

Only way to eradicate manipulation is put teams in the same level against each other. That way the only way to manipulate the draw is by buying Tokens, Green packs to manipulate quality via Scouts, power training.

[Tactician]

Tactician, you don't shy away from using the word cheating. After many, many seasons being put against teams divisions higher than myself, pitching me against world-class/superstars while I struggle to get most 5*s I have resulted to cheating (manipulating). Not to pick off easy, absent teams but to face fairer competition so I know if I win or lose, it's down to me, my squad and my tactics.

This is a polite question with no offence taken, I just wonder if you view manipulating the Cup to fairly win 2 trebles in a row after many seasons of unjust tournaments. Do you feel I haven't earned my achievements?

If everyone shares that view then I may aswell just quit.

Only way to eradicate manipulation is put teams in the same level against each other. That way the only way to manipulate the draw is by buying Tokens, Green packs to manipulate quality via Scouts, power training.

I have not referred to your case. Come on .
In fact, you have explained yourself why you had to manipulate the draw.

[Tactician]

This is what I propose. The Cup draw should be done based on the average quality of the team's starting line-up for all the matches this particular team played the previous season. The mixture of levels should stay, but should not exceed by a difference of 2. At least once in say every 3-4 seasons, a team should be among the top level of the Cup batch.

This leaves little room for cheating the Cup draw. If ever a user intends to manipulate the draw, he will have to sacrifice the results of many matches in the previous season. The only problem in there would be in the case of tankers who may put a weak starting line-up for all the matches, though this is unlikely the case as they will miss on the additional attributes' points that there intended first team players for the next season can gain.

[Moi]

This is what I propose. The Cup draw should be done based on the average quality of the team's starting line-up for all the matches this particular team played the previous season. The mixture of levels should stay, but should not exceed by a difference of 2. At least once in say every 3-4 seasons, a team should be among the top level of the Cup batch.

This leaves little room for cheating the Cup draw. If ever a user intends to manipulate the draw, he will have to sacrifice the results of many matches in the previous season. The only problem in there would be in the case of tankers who may put a weak starting line-up for all the matches, though this is unlikely the case as they will miss on the additional attributes' points that there intended first team players for the next season can gain.

That's actually a nice suggestion, I'll make sure it's properly evaluated by our dev team

[Tactician]

That's actually a nice suggestion, I'll make sure it's properly evaluated by our dev team

Thanks .

[cookizzz]

This is what I propose. The Cup draw should be done based on the average quality of the team's starting line-up for all the matches this particular team played the previous season. The mixture of levels should stay, but should not exceed by a difference of 2. At least once in say every 3-4 seasons, a team should be among the top level of the Cup batch.

This leaves little room for cheating the Cup draw. If ever a user intends to manipulate the draw, he will have to sacrifice the results of many matches in the previous season. The only problem in there would be in the case of tankers who may put a weak starting line-up for all the matches, though this is unlikely the case as they will miss on the additional attributes' points that there intended first team players for the next season can gain.

I like this. I saw similar/identical suggestion in the past. But it will unlikely adopt because it require enormous programming effort like recording average quality of team for long period and cannot possibly generate extra revenue. So I only expect minor change like the one which will soon be implemented.

[Tactician]

I like this. I saw similar/identical suggestion in the past. But it will unlikely adopt because it require enormous programming effort like recording average quality of team for long period and cannot possibly generate extra revenue. So I only expect minor change like the one which will soon be implemented.

On the new version (2016), the average quality of the starting line-up is already displayed before each particular match. It is only a matter of keeping a record of those as the season proceeds, then make use of a calculated overall average starting line-up for the whole season for doing the Cup draw, and discard that data after the Cup draw has been done. Also, it is not a must for quality data for the starting line-up of all competitive matches in a particular season to be recorded; it can be those only for the League, or the Cup and the League. Suppose that it is still too much, a random set of data can be recorded. But, I don't think this would be difficult to program and implement.

[Tactician]

In case you have any doubts, El Pistolero, I did not know that you manipulated the Cup draw before I wrote this post; I saw your post after I have posted mine. When I opened this thread, only Moi's post was present. You were writing your post at the same time as I was doing mine, but mine took longer to be written, edited and posted.

[El Pistolero]

In case you have any doubts, El Pistolero, I did not know that you manipulated the Cup draw before I wrote this post; I saw your post after I have posted mine. When I opened this thread, only Moi's post was present. You were writing your post at the same time as I was doing mine, but mine took longer to be written, edited and posted.

It's ok, I didn't think your post was aimed at me at all. I just wondered where we draw the line on cheating. Is it ok to manipulate to counter opponents who manipulate to drawn a guaranteed victory by quality and level alone? My intention isn't to cheat as I draw fair competition. Basically how I view the Cup draw SHOULD be.

But I don't know if I bring balance or if I am just as bad as those people who pick off easy teams.