R.I.P. Free Booster Videos

[cracicot]

if nordues can't fix that in a days , then they shouldn't be in software programming business
if it took a year, am sure bcz they want it to last a year

100% true.

I hardly think that they make the majority of their money on videos anyways. Maybe 5-10% tops. Of course, should that income stream disappear, they have to have other ways to make up for it (increasing injuries always does the trick methinks!)

Still, you factor in all the free boosters and they might even lose money on the videos --> People get tons of free boosters = People dont buy enough boosters = they dont waste enough tokens = they dont spend enough money.

If I were Nordeus, and if I could survive without the revenue stream of the booster vids, I would just not bring them back. If I did, it would be programmed to only view once per account, per day, regardless of your browser.

[shwanko07]

100% true.

I hardly think that they make the majority of their money on videos anyways. Maybe 5-10% tops. Of course, should that income stream disappear, they have to have other ways to make up for it (increasing injuries always does the trick methinks!)

Still, you factor in all the free boosters and they might even lose money on the videos --> People get tons of free boosters = People dont buy enough boosters = they dont waste enough tokens = they dont spend enough money.

If I were Nordeus, and if I could survive without the revenue stream of the booster vids, I would just not bring them back. If I did, it would be programmed to only view once per account, per day, regardless of your browser.

what Nordeus forget is that indirectly it will hit token buyers too, as with easier league ? now why Token buyers need to invest more? well unless they want to win the cup

is like UK gov, they think buy cutting public jobs , private sector will compensate that .. what happen is the inverse bcz with less costumers (bcz of cuts), private sectors need to cut too ..

[Morgan O'Bree]

100% true.

I hardly think that they make the majority of their money on videos anyways. Maybe 5-10% tops. Of course, should that income stream disappear, they have to have other ways to make up for it (increasing injuries always does the trick methinks!)

Still, you factor in all the free boosters and they might even lose money on the videos --> People get tons of free boosters = People dont buy enough boosters = they dont waste enough tokens = they dont spend enough money.

If I were Nordeus, and if I could survive without the revenue stream of the booster vids, I would just not bring them back. If I did, it would be programmed to only view once per account, per day, regardless of your browser.

a year !! is not like a nuclear physics .. if nordues can't fix that in a day(s) , then they shouldn't be in software programming business
if it took a year, am sure bcz they want it to last a year
whether is A or B .. this is my last season .. am joining T35 league .. and will never click any offer ever .. am so happy now .. less time wasted

Did you two forgot already of GK's bug? How long did it take them to fix it?

[cracicot]

Did you two forgot already of GK's bug? How long did it take them to fix it?

Sorry, this is news to me...they fixed it???

[Morgan O'Bree]

Sorry, this is news to me...they fixed it???

Since last season. Actually for a couple of days if the keeper injured you took like 4 goals in 4 minutes until sub, then i guess they recoded that too.

[rdsouza]

100% true.

I hardly think that they make the majority of their money on videos anyways. Maybe 5-10% tops. Of course, should that income stream disappear, they have to have other ways to make up for it (increasing injuries always does the trick methinks!)

Still, you factor in all the free boosters and they might even lose money on the videos --> People get tons of free boosters = People dont buy enough boosters = they dont waste enough tokens = they dont spend enough money.

If I were Nordeus, and if I could survive without the revenue stream of the booster vids, I would just not bring them back. If I did, it would be programmed to only view once per account, per day, regardless of your browser.

If I may .... a quick search will show that Nordeus would have an annual turnover of over 1B Euro (based on 2011 when they signed with BWin and reportedly had a proforma revenue of 800M Euro with an EBITDA of 200MEuro...very healthy!). Also reportedly, anywhere between 2M to 5M monthly (active) users on T11. Even at half the low watermark - at 1M users buying an average of $25/- tokens per month... on the very low side - thats a revenue stream of 300M$?!? If those rather conservative 1M users click an average of 2 vids / day - thats 60M clicks a month & 720M clicks a year ... at 1cent a click (fair?).. thats only 7.2M$. The rest presumably comes from grants, advertising, branding etc ...

Now,
If I were Nordeus management :-) and were willing to trade off 50% of "click-revenue" for a 5% increase in token revenue... wouldnt need to go to any business school to figure that out...

[cracicot]

If I may .... a quick search will show that Nordeus would have an annual turnover of over 1B Euro (based on 2011 when they signed with BWin and reportedly had a proforma revenue of 800M Euro with an EBITDA of 200MEuro...very healthy!). Also reportedly, anywhere between 2M to 5M monthly (active) users on T11. Even at half the low watermark - at 1M users buying an average of $25/- tokens per month... on the very low side - thats a revenue stream of 300M$?!? If those rather conservative 1M users click an average of 2 vids / day - thats 60M clicks a month & 720M clicks a year ... at 1cent a click (fair?).. thats only 7.2M$. The rest presumably comes from grants, advertising, branding etc ...

Now,
If I were Nordeus management :-) and were willing to trade off 50% of "click-revenue" for a 5% increase in token revenue... wouldnt need to go to any business school to figure that out...

Exactly. I suspected that the vid revenue was small peanuts. If this be true, then say bye-bye to the booster vids for a loooooooooooong time folks.

[guido]

1M users click an average of 2 vids / day - thats 60M clicks a month & 720M clicks a year ... at 1cent a click (fair?).. thats only 7.2M$.

Well, I think you are too low with 1 cent per view... This sort of ads usually are much more expensive for the advertiser. Would calculate with at least 3 to 5 cent and as T11 has a very interesting audience for advertisers that usually cannot be reached very easy it even might be more...

Et ceterum censeo Videos should be boycotted until Nordeus rewards them with boosters again!

[cracicot]

Well, I think you are too low with 1 cent per view... This sort of ads usually are much more expensive for the advertiser. Would calculate with at least 3 to 5 cent and as T11 has a very interesting audience for advertisers that usually cannot be reached very easy it even might be more...

Et ceterum censeo Videos should be boycotted until Nordeus rewards them with boosters again!

Even with your revised numbers, it is hardly worth keeping the booster videos compared to what they can make on tokens.

[shwanko07]

Even with your revised numbers, it is hardly worth keeping the booster videos compared to what they can make on tokens.

first above numbers are not correct .. at least compared to what i seen in 7 seasons in league and CL.. but ignore that what you forget to consider is that with less competition why token buyers need to buy more tokens? it is a domino effect , ex: look to how chelsea investment led other to spend more as they raised the bar higher, so nordeus need to aim to do the same, give them non token buyers enough competition to push token buyers to invest more, in the same time not much to pi$$ of token buyers who want to win at the end after investing alot .. they need to keep the balance right , less competition = less token needed for buyers