New Engine System... WHAT THE F*** ?? I'm pissed off !

[magic3]

You are wrong man. They PAY to advertise the game, to can sell the official teams stuff , to have mourinho like a official managere ecc... I think.
It doesn't have any sense be paid to do advertise, never hear a thing like this, if you have just a bit idea about the economy and the market works, you can easly understand this.

Let's not start with insults, ok? Thanks. I did not insult you nor tell you that you don't have any idea about what you are talking about nor do I feel the need to tell you about my background to prove to you that I know a thing or two about economics. If you want people to be responding to your post, you should be polite at least. I did not say they get money from advertising their game, selling official items or that Mourinho is giving them money.

I am saying they get money from advertisers on top eleven site. All the ones that give tokens to players for completing offers.

[emilstyle91]

Let's not start with insults, ok? Thanks. I did not insult you nor tell you that you don't have any idea about what you are talking about nor do I feel the need to tell you about my background to prove to you that I know a thing or two about economics. If you want people to be responding to your post, you should be polite at least. I did not say they get money from advertising their game, selling official items or that Mourinho is giving them money.

I am saying they get money from advertisers on top eleven site. All the ones that give tokens to players for completing offers.

Hei Man... really sorry about that, but i don't know where I insult you :O I don't see any insult in my post, and if there is, just tell me and i remove it, i don't want offend anyone really, I hate be rude or unpolyed ! Really sorry about it ! Maybe because i write something that sound like an insult and it's not, sometimes happen because i'm italian and I use a strange english.

About partner for tokens, i think that nobody does really that stuff, too complicated, and i tried sometimes but the tokens never rise up on my account. You don't have to prove anything to me, we are just talking about the engine system. You have to think that Nordeus probably have offices, employees, bills to pay, taxes and all this stuff. And I'm really pretty sure that they can't pay nothing with advertise.
If it's really like you are saying, why the scout cost about 5 dollars each ? And why it's pretty impossible use some services like personal trainer because just training one player at max you have to spent about 350dollars ? Have you ever thinked about this stuff mate ?
For me is a crap, honestly. Maybe for you is not.
But i'm seriously interested to know what is your formation and tactis, because maybe you win easier now than before this change, and if is, i can understand why you support this new system..

[cracicot]

I'm not talking about paying or not paying the game.
But obviously, if you pay, is right that you have to win easier. I remind you, that without people who pay, this game gonna be finish next week. If you have the same player of your opponents, it's right win or lose, and also maybe 3-4 goals between you and him.
BUT IT'S NOT RIGHT LOSE againts player with 10 or 15 quality and low moral on all player then you.. It's not, and anything else.

The real football is that. The team like barcellona, paris saint germain, bayern, juventus ecc that spend MORE MONEY than the other, win almost always the league. Also Real Madrid, it's always first or second.
So, if in my league I have maybe one or two teams who has the player quality like mine, i have to be second or first, not fourth because i lost with **** team never followed by the managers.
And aslo the special abilities, WHAT THE HELL ! if i have 11 player with wall defensive, one to one striker, one to one stopper, aeraial defender, dribler, playmaker , specialist corner and ecc... and the oppontent has NOTHING, how can he beats me ?
Come on, be honest, it's not right.

Sorry for my bad english, I'm Italian... Living in Australia now, i hope that you can understand.

Man, You really are provoking me without knowing it, because they can provide this game for free with revenue from advertising and still stay afloat. Dont fool yourself into thinking that token buyers keep this game running. Token buyers keep this game from evolving, since Nordeus sees no reason to improve it when it brings in so much money. This is the main reason why serious changes that we have been crying for have taken over 6 months to implement, and some issues have lasted over a year and are still at large.

[emilstyle91]

Man, You really are provoking me without knowing it, because they can provide this game for free with revenue from advertising and still stay afloat. Dont fool yourself into thinking that token buyers keep this game running. Token buyers keep this game from evolving, since Nordeus sees no reason to improve it when it brings in so much money. This is the main reason why serious changes that we have been crying for have taken over 6 months to implement, and some issues have lasted over a year and are still at large.

Man... sorry but, can I know who you are ? You are talking like if you work in nordeus like programmer or something like that...

[cracicot]

Man... sorry but, can I know who you are ? You are talking like if you work in nordeus like programmer or something like that...

Sorry if that came out a bit misunderstood. And yes, I am a programmer, but not for Nordeus.

People who think this game is only successful if token buyers continue to contribute are people who have their heads in the sand. Advertising for a big game goes both ways: Nordeus pays other sources to use their likenesses and material, while other companies see the audience that Nordeus can supply and pay for the advertising on their site. Nordeus also pays other sites to put their name on it. There are many streams of advertising revenue and expenses and believe me, with the greed that Nordeus shows, you can be sure that they are exploring all of them to maximize profit. Its seems that screwing people out of tokens is not sufficient....

All that to say, they can survive without token buyers. They wont like it, but they would survive.

[magic3]

I am not supporting a 'new system' nor am I sure that there is a 'new system' although I did write a topic on this about a week ago. http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...ng-season.html

Just because Nordeus charges for things you mention doesn't mean that they would go bankrupt if they did not. They are just making more money this way. When you complete free offers and don't get any tokens, that does not necessarily mean that Nordeus did not get a fee from the supplier of that offer.

[flatthg]

What is your problem Dude? I.WIN

[cracicot]

What is your problem Dude? I.WIN

Yes but do you buy tokens or are you a free bird? BAsed on the results of the SS, I would say that #1 buys tokens or is a serious farmer.

[flatthg]

I buy Tokens and I'm not a free be, but he says he couldn't win the league while buying tokens, and as you could see, it works for me. BUT I'm really looking for tactics and how to counter them, I had some hard matches against even weaker Teams with very activ Managers, and I wished I could have more of those, this is something more fun then watching your Team win and win over and over again and get's even stronger then it was before. I started the League with a ~24 Team, and I'm now on over 30Q. So if I'm not completly dump I should make a 26-0-0 this Season.

[emilstyle91]

I buy Tokens and I'm not a free be, but he says he couldn't win the league while buying tokens, and as you could see, it works for me. BUT I'm really looking for tactics and how to counter them, I had some hard matches against even weaker Teams with very activ Managers, and I wished I could have more of those, this is something more fun then watching your Team win and win over and over again and get's even stronger then it was before. I started the League with a ~24 Team, and I'm now on over 30Q. So if I'm not completly dump I should make a 26-0-0 this Season.

Hi man, this is really interesting. Can we know what's formation and tactics you use ?
I remember that me too in the 2 season i had 26-0-0 perfect season.. i think that maybe the first season are a bit easier than the next.. If you can show your tactics and player i will be happy to understand =D