similar type of game to T11?

[July Fourth]

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[Piemaster]

Hattrick is okay, but the game engine is rather one-dimensional. And it is really a game for the long haul (for literally the first year you will be floundering around trying to set up your team properly).

[Conker King]

I think it is hard to find a game online where the creators aren't ****s, in some form or another, who ignore the wishes of their customers. The one instance where I found a game where the owner wasn't a ****(in my admittedly limited onling gaming experience) he did change the game per the wishes of a large group of players. What happenend is he diminished the game for a small select group of regulars, to suit what was essentially a lot of part time players. The big player regs' left, the part timers quickly got bored, and the game languished in mediocrity until its demise.

[Piemaster]

I think it is hard to find a game online where the creators aren't ****s, in some form or another, who ignore the wishes of their customers. The one instance where I found a game where the owner wasn't a ****(in my admittedly limited onling gaming experience) he did change the game per the wishes of a large group of players. What happenend is he diminished the game for a small select group of regulars, to suit what was essentially a lot of part time players. The big player regs' left, the part timers quickly got bored, and the game languished in mediocrity until its demise.

You just illustrated perfectly why developers shouldn't just immediately act upon the whimsical demands of segments of their players.

[magic3]

You just illustrated perfectly why developers shouldn't just immediately act upon the whimsical demands of segments of their players.

Yes, however that has nothing to do with this game. Why? Because the regular top 11 players would not leave the game if Nordeus implemented things like: no friendlies unless the other person agrees to it, less injuries to be more realistic, no 15 minutes between the games, introduce players <18 years old, generate few more 5* players for the highest level managers on the servers, and many other great suggestions we have heard over time from the forum members..

[Piemaster]

Yes, however that has nothing to do with this game. Why? Because the regular top 11 players would not leave the game if Nordeus implemented things like: no friendlies unless the other person agrees to it, less injuries to be more realistic, no 15 minutes between the games, introduce players <18 years old, generate few more 5* players for the highest level managers on the servers, and many other great suggestions we have heard over time from the forum members..

One man's great suggestion is another man's reason for quitting. Even when it seems 'everyone agrees' it is usually very misleading, because the 'everyone' that you're talking about is usually:

a) Only the people who use the forum
b) Only the people who care about the issue enough to shout loudly on that particular thread and
c) Assumes that these people know what's good for the game, or even what factors contribute to their own enjoyment (this is a discussion in itself)

I have played literally dozens of MMRPGS in my time and have seen several take a significant turn for the worse when the devs made a change that 'everybody' asked for.

[cracicot]

One man's great suggestion is another man's reason for quitting. Even when it seems 'everyone agrees' it is usually very misleading, because the 'everyone' that you're talking about is usually:

a) Only the people who use the forum
b) Only the people who care about the issue enough to shout loudly on that particular thread and
c) Assumes that these people know what's good for the game, or even what factors contribute to their own enjoyment (this is a discussion in itself)

I have played literally dozens of MMRPGS in my time and have seen several take a significant turn for the worse when the devs made a change that 'everybody' asked for.

ooooo I'll bite, name me a few games that everyone asked for changes and it started the suck. I find it hard to believe that a collective intelligence can "improve" a game and it starts to suck.

1. Considering these people care enough about the game to sign upto the forum would suggest to me they are the "most loyal and dedicated"

2. So they have scrapped the other friendly system have they? I thought the new system was supposed to have 3 hours between games? If that's the case then why has my champions league semi final been arranged for 15 minutes after a very important league game?!!
As for the asymmetric system, when do you think it's actually going to happen? ...umm.....Im betting not anytime soon if at all!!!!

3. If you read my posts I've said T11 has the potential to the best FM game ive played. The problem is there are a couple of major flaws that everyone can see but Nordeus either don't know what they are doing or they don't care. The reason im asking if there is a better game is because Nordeus are ruining this game!!!!!

Signing up to a forum hardly designates a person as loyal and dedicated. They might be starting the game and need help. There are probably tons of people who are more loyal and dedicated that most of the people on this forum.

Woah wait a sec, I don't agree with that. I think the injury level is pretty realistic as it is. In fact, you would probably have to increase injuries in some regards to make it genuinely realistic.

REALLY? increase injuries to make it MORE realistic?
First, there has to be a sense of realism in the game for any aspect of it to be realistic, but besides that, the game is apparently using the last years EPL injury rate, so how much more realistic do you need?

If anything there are too many injuries and what you see on this site is the tip of the iceberg. I can only assume that there are a ton of other managers out there cursing Nordeus for their inept game engine and the rate of injuries.

I am just trying to understand someone saying "In fact, you would probably have to increase injuries in some regards to make it genuinely realistic." Maybe you have not played long enough to see these injuries, frequency, length, etc. I never thought anyone would say that on this forum.

Yes, please Piemaster, please email Nordeus and ask for more injuries because you are afraid this game isnt realistic enough! lol Send me what you are smokin man!