Well I absolutely 100% totally agree with .......

Both of you.

You're both arguing the same point but in different ways.

Festinator is 100% correct about how this game works and Sully is 100% correct about how this game should work.

I think the both of you would be on the same side in some of the other arguments that go on about the game here.

Think about calling this one a draw and shaking hands , there will be plenty of other topics to get stuck into soon enough.

Got to go ... I've got a fence to go and sit on ))