Quote Originally Posted by Marc Symons View Post
HINT: Read back posts before posting - 80% of your 'rant' makes no sense. I shouldn't even waste my time responding to you but here it is one last time.

Relegation: So you say that a team should GAIN a star when relegated?. If relegation was an option this is obviously how it would work, however losing a star does not change the quality of the team. It simply adjusts the star ranking according to the level upgrade. So if you were relegated you would lose a star yet your team would still be of the same quality. Therefore like i said earlier you could effectively have teams with 60 quality getting relegated over and over all the way down to a league/level where teams of 20 quality are playing. This is what would happen - people would intentionally get relegated in order to dominate leagues and it would be very unfair and off putting to lower ranked teams/newbies to be playing against teams they have no chance of beating.

Tanking vs Tokens - Your statement about Token buying being as much 'cheating' as tankning is probably the most dumb thing i have read in my time at this forum. In fact i feel a little stupider after reading it. People may not like it but you NEED tokens to play this game and in REAL football there are teams with lots of money who can improve there squad to high levels, as there is also poorer teams that cannot afford to buy top players. The same counts in Top eleven, tere are players with lost of real money that buy tokens to improve there squad and there are players that cant afford or simply choose not to buy tokens. (See the resemblance there)
Tanking on the other hand is a player intentionally losing/throwing matches in order to rig competition draws and have a better chance of winning the next year. In REAL football if a team was to tank (Intentionally lose matches/throw matches) it WOULD be cheating and would result in major fines and even a team being thrown out of the league. (See the resemblance there)

Therefore token buying is obviously not cheating - It is a feature programmed into the game by the developers.

Tanking is cheating and apart from it being cheating it is unethical as Top Eleven is all about competition and who wants to play against teams that throw matches? Tankers are also known to tank in order to get easier cup draws. Your argument is flawed.
seeing your posts, I dont believe you need anything to make you feel stupider, you do it naturally. That is because you cannot see the other side of the argument since you are so biased. Same as typtex. You both cant see that tanking is not cheating. Buying tokens has the same affect = manipulating the game. both of you are hypocrites. Mark, i read the first paragraph of your post and just gave up reading becauese of the nonsense, same with typtex. you start off with hypocritical remarks which makes the rest of your post unreadable or unworthy of reading.

losing to win is the same as paying to win. one takes time,the other take money. for those of us who dont pay to play this game, tanking is the only way to compete if you dont farm tokens. for July 4th to put a post to teach people how to do it shows that it is not cheating as well as it not being banned by nordeus.

you want to play against other managers who want to win? good for you. then email nordeus support and tell them to delete all the non active accounts first. then tell them to not allow illegal formations to prvent tanking.

Look the flaw in yoru arguement is your hyprocracy. you only go after tankers and not token buyers who manipulate the game as well. also this game is not a race, as you dont have to get promoted to be successful. just because you dont watn to be promoted and to stay at a level does not mean you dont have a winning mentality. I will lose next season so i can win the next. I want to win, but realize that i cannot with the current team until they get stronger and i will not spend tokens to do that.

open your eyes.