losing interest fast...

[BigB79]

I still disagree with losing interest/giving up if a few results have gone badly for a player, in my opinion that's the time when a team needs to be shaken up and new tactics employed to get the team back to winning ways.

But I also disagree with this games troll engine, if I'd have known about it I wouldn't have started playing.
I don't mind being beaten by an inferior team where the manager uses better tactics to get a result, or even my players under performing and giving the game away, all this happens every week in football.
What I don't like is the thought of a well organised team losing to an unmanaged team who has a striker playing in goal, just because the engine has selected your team to be trolled.
If your team is selected to be trolled there should be a way of being able to change things (in play) so the "troll" can be cancelled out. (and I'm still thinking this can be done, I'm just not sure).

So while I'm against giving up if things don't go well for a few games, with the troll engine present in this game I can understand why players feel like this.

I agree with you about giving up if a few results go against you in real life,where would Man Utd be if SAF gave up in his first season? But with the troll engine its easy to see why people would just give up.

[littledude072]

I still disagree with losing interest/giving up if a few results have gone badly for a player, in my opinion that's the time when a team needs to be shaken up and new tactics employed to get the team back to winning ways.

But I also disagree with this games troll engine, if I'd have known about it I wouldn't have started playing.
I don't mind being beaten by an inferior team where the manager uses better tactics to get a result, or even my players under performing and giving the game away, all this happens every week in football.
What I don't like is the thought of a well organised team losing to an unmanaged team who has a striker playing in goal, just because the engine has selected your team to be trolled.
If your team is selected to be trolled there should be a way of being able to change things (in play) so the "troll" can be cancelled out. (and I'm still thinking this can be done, I'm just not sure).

So while I'm against giving up if things don't go well for a few games, with the troll engine present in this game I can understand why players feel like this.

that was a good quote, its nice to see someone else positive

as for me im fence sitting ATM. i get trolled by weaker teams, yet i troll stronger teams? i can easily admit defeat if its nice and fair. hell, i can even admit defeat if i lost my only 2 wins in the league against stronger teams, but i wont admit defeat against the weaker teams with mostly 1*, terrible tactics, 30-70 (or worse) possession but somehow steals a winner (even by a huge difference). thats just my view

[Starker17]

How do you know who to take off and replace him with when you can't even view how the players are plaing in the game?

[Incredipede]

I noticed that this season too.

[duchao]

I think that some people do not have the tactical thinking should only be placed at position 7.8, and I have to champion

[Kevin Cheng]

There have been many troll results in my cup this season. I've already seen three players knocked out who I thought for sure would go far. Of course I'm absolutely happy to see them gone, but I just had a taste of the troll engine as well. I got a draw against a much worst team at home, so now I'm in desperate need for an away victory. I am putting my fist through a wall if I lose the second leg tmw

[itayfranko]

ok, I'v decided to put my theory to the test:

In my opinion - tactics, orders, arrows and so on have nothing to do with the outcome of the game.
If the game engine wants you to win - you'll win, if it wants you to lose - you'll lose.

So I'm going to use stupid (but legal) tactics with idiotic arrows and orders to see what will happen...
(see pictures).

the game is in 3 hours.

[4am]

In my opinion - tactics, orders, arrows and so on have nothing to do with the outcome of the game.

I suspect you may be partly right.

Although the features you refer to exist, some don't appear to have been developed sufficiently to have a telling impact. I also suspect that if they did, the developers would be telling us about it; I believe I'm right in saying the purpose of arrows and the way to use them beneficially has never been adequately explained?

Essentially, every game you play in T11 is won or lost based upon the number of stars your players have. If you beat a stronger team/lose to a weaker team, I've seen nothing in 20 seasons to suggest it was the result of the player's tactical expertise/inexperience (as much as we'd like to think that was the case).

[olina1]

The results are in!

Just as I suspected - tactics and orders have nothing to do with the result.
I managed to win 5:0 with tactics and orders that should have made me lose easily...
more than that, I got an injury on the 47th minute and didn't bother replacing the player,
so I played with 10 men almost half of the game...

Admittedly, my opponent was weaker, but he should have at least drawn....
I have one more game today, against a strong opponent, I will use the same tactics and orders...

pics:

[4am]

Just as I suspected - tactics and orders have nothing to do with the result.

I'm not sure it's quite as easy as that olina, but your set-up/formation there is a fairly damning indictment on the game's tactical accuracy.

Interested to see your next post.