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    List of fast trainers per level

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    Ok you can see below the information of the values, but I think that I found a universal rule, of how the game apply values in fast trainers, (so, it doesnt matter the level)**Correction, that's wrong, day23/01/2014 -

    the correct conclusion is;
    -Yes, the difference is higher in the first level, and decreases level by level, so, to know well how it works at now I will ask for the players wage/salary, to know, because good trainer in level 1 can have a value x150 tines the wage.

    It decreases by level, because there is a max. of money that you can have so, near level 20, the players value are the same at higher levels.
    And that's why this game have a limit in the cash per team of a little bit than a Billion, but, there's no limit of level.

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    (thats a copy of an answer that I writted in this thread)

    "Ok, now I'm studying how the game works, let's try to find a mode to know fast trainers;
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    We have the SALARY and the VALUE of the player, I am trying to understand how the game applie these values depending of, QUALITY LEVEL, and TRAINING evolution.
    Another viewpoit to see in the value, is the effectiveness of one player depending of how is he programmed, I have to see if it's included in the value, but for now the answer is NO. Is a lottery how is programmed the player.

    So the rule is; -....for level 12** added 24/01/2014
    SALARY = VALUE X10 (or less) = low trainer

    SALARY = VALUE X30 = fast trainer.

    With the seasons this x30 (or x20, x15, x14) decreases with the age of the player.

    examples;
    ZUMALAKARREGUI , AGE 19,
    SALARY 1,22M - VALUE 36,4
    can train 143 in a 30% hard training, maybe this x30 value under the SALARY = he is a pearl, and I can confirm that for now.

    How lower is the progress in training, more near is the value of the player to 10 times his salary, or less than 10 times.

    Please, now you can put examples to try to understand this system, to know if this is the rule of this game.

    (^-^)"

    end""

    I think that this rule can help you easy to know who is good in the training.
    Now as i said, I have to know if the value say something of how effective is a player playing in his position, but, I think that, this is programmed by hidden skills/%values like is logic.
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    Well, time and time ago, I was thinking in to use a group, to add some information of this forum...
    I am thinking that, I will save, a list of prices of fast trainers, per level, to have a "referance".
    Too I have to save the list of counter formations.
    And, a list of, the stadium, levels... prices of entrances per level /usual number of fans... list about the prizes of the amount that we win, if we get the cup....
    Now, that I am of vacations, maybe, I will do this work

    So, let's talk about the fast trainers that we can buy in the market, and, the value that they have, your personal experience, and the points that they obtain to train.
    Let's share a little bit of that, now that the year, and new season starts, and we have new players that, wanna know more about how to obtain the 100% of this fantastic (justtankandallisdone) game.

    (^-^)


    List by:
    (level X)
    age- Value - *stars - type of training (20/30% Hard) - Progress


    Level 1
    18-
    19-
    20-
    21-390k - 4*(16Q) - wage 3.3k - 30% H 145 -market - ST
    22-

    Not good trainers but here, a referance of good players of AGE/WAGE/VALUE maybe of low stars level, but here I wanna try to show a list to see the effective players at low cost, because I think wage and Value say ho the player work so;

    Good wage/value
    27- 93k , 3,5k = 3* (14Q) ***players of 3* and age 27 or more with a Value = Wage x30 are in the better level.
    if are x20 or less are not good.


    GK 27 age-3*- 53k, 1,7k (12Q) excellent GK of 12Q ( Value = Wage x31)


    level 2
    18-
    19-900k- 3* - 20% H -109 - 30% H -128 -Academy free-DC/DMC
    19-2,17M- 5* -20%H - 86 - 30%H -92 - Nordgen ST
    20-
    21-
    22-
    level 3
    18- 3M - 4*- 20% H- 70 - 30% H- 150 - Nordgen
    19- fugazi? value - 4*- 20% H 78 - 30% H 178 -Nordgen
    20-
    21-
    22-
    level 4
    18-
    19-
    20-
    21-
    22-
    level 5
    18-
    19-
    20-
    21-
    22-
    level 6
    18-13M- 5* -20%H-61 30%H-119- Nordgen DL/DC
    19-7.2M - 5* -20%H-59 30%H-94 Nordgen DC/DR
    20-5.7M - 4* -20%H-82 30%H -129 Academy GK 24Tokens
    21-
    22-
    level 7
    18-
    19-
    20-
    21-
    22-
    level 8
    18-18,8M (wage 390k) -4* -Academy -DMC/DML
    18-24,5M (wage 770k) - 59q - Market -MR
    19-20,5M - 5* ...Market DMC
    20-15,9 (wage 740k) - 5* ...market ML/AML
    21-
    22-
    level 9
    18- 30,9M- wage 1,09M - 5* - Market - DML DL
    19-
    20- 12,6M - 4* - 20% H - 73 -30% H - 157
    21-
    22-
    level 10
    18- 32,9M (wage 1M) -5* Academy - GK
    19-
    20-
    21-
    22-
    level 11
    18-47M - 5* - 10%-40 - 20%- 80 - 30% - 95 (market) - GK
    19-
    20-
    21-
    22-
    level 12
    18-54,6M - 4* 74Q - MC
    19-30,9M - 4* 70Q -20%-90 - 30% -143 (academy) DC-DR
    19-33,4M - 4*- 20% H -74/97 - 30% H - 97/129 (Academy) ST
    19-35,1M -wage 1,53M - 5* -75Q ..-20%H- 47 - 30%H -100 - Academy - ST (Morientes, FCBayern M√ľnchen)
    20-
    21-
    22-
    level 13
    18-
    19-59.1M - 5* - 20%Normal- 41 30%Normal- 63
    20-
    21-
    22-


    level 15
    18
    19
    20
    21...104M wage 7,7M - 8* - 106Q 30% hard training win 10/20/30 (Philip Cocu, MC)

    well.. at the end it doesnt matter if is a player of the market, young, of negotiations, because in all cases, the value, and age can say if they train fast...
    Last edited by khris; 09-04-2014 at 12:30 AM.

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    I will start;

    For example; (I will talk in this case of one player of my academy, because I usually I don't buy in the market)

    Name*(opt.)-Zumalakarregui
    Level: 12
    Position:ST
    age: 19
    Value: 33.4M
    30% L/M/H (Low, Medium or Hard training) - H 97
    20% H 74

    History: player from my academy, I bought it last season with 18 years and 4* (*=stars)
    In a hard training of 30% he wins 97 of progress hability.
    74 of progress in the 20% hard training.


    Too we can talk, about the negotiations list nope?^^
    But the idea at now is players from the market, to see the "good" values of every level,
    Good value = value of the player that train fast.
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    I found some information about it here http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...ners-cost.html
    So I guess Im looking for someone that cost 13M+ for 5* at level 6.
    Highest I have seen this season is 11Mil some 9Mil, can someone confirm that they have seen 13M+ at level 6?

    we need a list of prices per level....-.-''
    Yea it would be nice with a complete list that is close to 100% accurate.
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    Level 6 for this early in the season would be up to 10m. Later on, in 2nd half, you should get the odd few up to 13.

    Finding 18m on day 1 but very few in Level 7. 15m seems to be good at 18yrs

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    Level 6 for this early in the season would be up to 10m. Later on, in 2nd half, you should get the odd few up to 13.

    Finding 18m on day 1 but very few in Level 7. 15m seems to be good at 18yrs.

    But then I also believe it has to do with the structure above you as well.

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    Price is a good indicator, SA is one as well, as most dont bother training players to learn SA's. Indicators they are, nothing more, expensive players can be slow trainers and players without SA can be fast trainers and vice versa. What seals the deal is the club name you're buying him from. If they have names like AC Muddy, Silly, Oily, etc. they'll be fast trainers, generated by Nordeus. (at server reset I think)

    I guess it's the only sure way of knowing you're buying a fast trainer from the auction market. The only ones I can afford are the high level 4 stars. For the price you pay for them, you could also buy 3 more experienced players 5-10 levels higher then the fast trainers.

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    The fastest trainers I've had, by far, are Token Young players from the Youth Academy, specially when their market value is high. Nordeus generated players are fast trainers, but not as fast as Young Players; I think it is has to do with the quality; NGE are 5 * (I mean, I never buy a less than 5 * player), while Young players are 4 * max. I guess the less stars a player has, the faster he trains.

    In my experience, market value (combined with stars) and fast training are strongly related, but not always...

    Cholo

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    Quote Originally Posted by akjells View Post
    I'm trying to figure out who is a very fast trainer or not. I don't want those that are just above average lets say those that cost 9mil if average cost 7mil.
    But I don't have a clue what the best fast trainers should be costing. I haven't seen any players that cost "a lot" yet on the transfer list.

    So anyone know what the expected market value on fast trainers for manager level 6.

    Age 18, 5*
    Age 18, 4*

    Age 19, 5*
    Age 19, 4*

    Is it true that Nordeus sometimes release fast trainers on server reset?
    I am also at level 6...And I have bought 2 fast trainers...
    There cost is around 14 million...
    One was 14.4 million and the other was 14 million both age 18...

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    At level 6 the highest i have seen was 14,9M near the 6th star
    For 19 i would say above 11M
    THIS GAME IS TO RANDOM! I STOP WAISTING MY TIME!

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