The power of watching the game!

[Spyros]

ummm, no. you never have to watch your games to win. watching does not help, nor does it guarantee anything other than a green pack. they want you to get involved and think that you can influence the actual game *which is pre determined*, but all you do is influence the commentary. so many bot teams win consistently WITHOUT being at the game, WITHOUT the possession bonus.

open your eyes.

LOL you go ahead and believe what you want to believe. Lost games can be turned around if you get the chance to manage your team at second half.

I wont retaliate to your rude comment ( I am totally awake and enjoying the game) by throwing smart lines to you, just a question.

Instead of suggesting others to go negative about a game they like to play, why dont you find a new one and get busy with ???

[rastaman70]

LOL you go ahead and believe what you want to believe. Lost games can be turned around if you get the chance to manage your team at second half.

I wont retaliate to your rude comment ( I am totally awake and enjoying the game) by throwing smart lines to you, just a question.

Instead of suggesting others to go negative about a game they like to play, why dont you find a new one and get busy with ???

FYI, lost games cannot be turned around since the results of the games are determined before they start. That is why they lock the game down 3 mins before the game starts, so they can get their gerbil-powered game engine to crunch the numbers and calculate the results. it is like rolling the dice and looking up the results on a list to see what happens. so turning the game around by making substitutions is not going to happen as it only changes the commentary. we have discussed this ad nauseum already and its a pretty sound theory, and I say theory because we can only speculate on this because nobody at Nordeus will reveal this sham.

so again, I am here to enlighten the masses and help where I can. unfortunately, I cannot perform miracles and make this game better, not even Nordeus can do that.

if you dont like my constructive criticism and/or negativity, you can always NOT read my posts or NOT respond to them. plain and simple. or better yet, just block me so you are constantly teased to find out what I am saying, cuz we all know we love to read my posts. LOL

misery loves company - that sums it up nicely.

and i wasnt being rude.

[Spyros]

FYI, lost games cannot be turned around since the results of the games are determined before they start. That is why they lock the game down 3 mins before the game starts, so they can get their gerbil-powered game engine to crunch the numbers and calculate the results. it is like rolling the dice and looking up the results on a list to see what happens. so turning the game around by making substitutions is not going to happen as it only changes the commentary. we have discussed this ad nauseum already and its a pretty sound theory, and I say theory because we can only speculate on this because nobody at Nordeus will reveal this sham.

Result is predetermined as long as nothing of great importance is altered ingame.

Lets suppose we play against each other, having equal quality teams. My formation is 4-3W-3 so you check this and come with 4-4-2 on me, which 9 out of 10 times counters my formation. Ball kicks off and at that very second I switch my formation to 4-5-1 V-Style that counters your 4-4-2 eternally. Boom, I have just smoked your predetermined results catastrophe theory along with your team.

if you dont like my constructive criticism and/or negativity, you can always NOT read my posts or NOT respond to them. plain and simple. or better yet, just block me so you are constantly teased to find out what I am saying, cuz we all know we love to read my posts. LOL

misery loves company - that sums it up nicely.

and i wasnt being rude.

I hate to brake your bubble but world does not turn around you.
I posted in response to op- not to you, then you came along quoting me, trying to shoot my opinion down while being sarcastic with comments like "open your eyes" .

Having an opinion is one thing - Trying to be sarcastic to what others believe, just to prove your point is another. Be nice to people that share the same passion for top eleven like you do and spare us with the "I am what I am and block me if you dont like it" speech. Besides I dont have to do that, just watch me ignore you like a pro.

[rastaman70]

Result is predetermined as long as nothing of great importance is altered ingame.

Lets suppose we play against each other, having equal quality teams. My formation is 4-3W-3 so you check this and come with 4-4-2 on me, which 9 out of 10 times counters my formation. Ball kicks off and at that very second I switch my formation to 4-5-1 V-Style that counters your 4-4-2 eternally. Boom, I have just smoked your predetermined results catastrophe theory along with your team.



I hate to brake your bubble but world does not turn around you.
I posted in response to op- not to you, then you came along quoting me, trying to shoot my opinion down while being sarcastic with comments like "open your eyes" .

Having an opinion is one thing - Trying to be sarcastic to what others believe, just to prove your point is another. Be nice to people that share the same passion for top eleven like you do and spare us with the "I am what I am and block me if you dont like it" speech. Besides I dont have to do that, just watch me ignore you like a pro.

and I care. sorry, you cant see my caring face.

1) you hardly smoked my predetermined results theory with your theory. If you would read properly, I stated that it matters not what you do. As soon as the ball kicks off, the results are ALREADY DETERMINED. and FYI, 4-5-1V is hardly an eternal counter to 4-4-2 anymore. but hey, I can pass over your rookie mistake.

2) the world DOES revolve around me. I have my own small moon. I would show it to you but I dont want to get arrested for indecent exposure. (HINT: it involves showing you my a$$).

3) I like sarcasm. Its a great way to get your point across and still make someone look like a tool. I am as nice to people as they are nice to me, as long as they understand my first post and dont take it too personally (hint, hint).

4) block me, ignore me, or reply, I could care less. You give me ammo for a retort or you dont, its up to you. I have slowly been withdrawing from this forum because of the recent lameness and lack of action, and I have to congratulate you for allowing me to awaken myself from the droll T11 existance.

Cheers! LOL

[Siddharth Shanker Singh]

As soon as the ball kicks off, the results are ALREADY DETERMINED. a

If this is the case then play an ILLEGAL formation as soon as the game kicks starts...

The results are pre-determined but there are chances that we can influence them......

[Spyros]

If this is the case then play an ILLEGAL formation as soon as the game kicks starts...

The results are pre-determined but there are chances that we can influence them......

Ofcourse there are chances you can take and alter game's outcome. Strong chances actually. Dont believe everything you read.

This season my team stays in same level just to get stronger. So every game, I start with legal formations doing some tactic checks for future use. After I lead with one or two goals, I switch to ridiculous illegal formations just to lose. Can I stay victorious ??? LOL simply not

I do not work for Nordeus but I play this game for over 2 years and I can spot the difference between cheap and complex. Top Eleven can become crazy with RNG factor and all that, but it is not a cheap game with predetermined results. This is only speculating from brats, that can not manage their anger whenever they lose a game.

[gogs67]

This season my team stays in same level just to get stronger. So every game, I start with legal formations doing some tactic checks for future use. After I lead with one or two goals, I switch to ridiculous illegal formations just to lose. Can I stay victorious ??? LOL simply not

Exactly. And vice versa, I start a game with a crazy formation, wait till I'm 4 or 5 goals down, and with 20 mins to go switch to a 'good' formation and peg a couple of goals back. That's simple to do as well and blows out the water any theory that nothing you do 'in game' has any consequence.
I am in no way implying that the whole game engine isn't pretty basic though! Just that it's not as basic as we have no real influence on the outcome of games.

[rastaman70]

If this is the case then play an ILLEGAL formation as soon as the game kicks starts...

The results are pre-determined but there are chances that we can influence them......

ummmm nope. I played all last year with an account that tested illegal formations and it still doesnt matter. I won so many with just the illegal formation so it is extremely hard to prove that changing the formation just after kickoff will make a difference.

and you contradicted yourself with that last statement - if results are predetermined, then you cannot influence them as they are not changeable.

Ofcourse there are chances you can take and alter game's outcome. Strong chances actually. Dont believe everything you read.

This season my team stays in same level just to get stronger. So every game, I start with legal formations doing some tactic checks for future use. After I lead with one or two goals, I switch to ridiculous illegal formations just to lose. Can I stay victorious ??? LOL simply not

I do not work for Nordeus but I play this game for over 2 years and I can spot the difference between cheap and complex. Top Eleven can become crazy with RNG factor and all that, but it is not a cheap game with predetermined results. This is only speculating from brats, that can not manage their anger whenever they lose a game.

I tank to get stronger as well but thats beside the point.

dude you just lost the plot. if you start the game with a legal formation, the results are calculated with your legal formation and if the engine rolled that you won, you can change to an illegal formation until the cows come home and still win.

This IS a cheap game.

This is a cheap game WITH predetermined results.

and the brats who cannot manage their anger when they lose a game are not my problem, nor do I give a ****e what they do. I have no idea why that is even part of this conversation, but hey, who cares.

Exactly. And vice versa, I start a game with a crazy formation, wait till I'm 4 or 5 goals down, and with 20 mins to go switch to a 'good' formation and peg a couple of goals back. That's simple to do as well and blows out the water any theory that nothing you do 'in game' has any consequence.
I am in no way implying that the whole game engine isn't pretty basic though! Just that it's not as basic as we have no real influence on the outcome of games.

and gogs67, you are also missing the point. try to do what you said CONSISTANTLY and then you may be able to prove what you say, but you mention one game and you cant base/prove any theory with the results of one game. we have hundreds if not thousands of posts from people who have tested these theories and most of them when put together show some anomalies with the way results are determined. So far, the theory that games are predetermined has been argued since the start of the game and was probably one of the main reasons why the last version of this forum was dumped.

you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink. that sums up nicely what I am trying to do here.

[gogs67]

and gogs67, you are also missing the point. try to do what you said CONSISTANTLY and then you may be able to prove what you say, but you mention one game and you cant base/prove any theory with the results of one game. we have hundreds if not thousands of posts from people who have tested these theories and most of them when put together show some anomalies with the way results are determined. So far, the theory that games are predetermined has been argued since the start of the game and was probably one of the main reasons why the last version of this forum was dumped.

you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink. that sums up nicely what I am trying to do here.

I do it every season I tank and, from the results over many of my games, I'm convinced that 'in game' drastic formation changes have a direct impact on the score/result.
Last season for example I won my first 10 games. Then I lost my next 14 on purpose and then won the last two as I was safely 'staying down'.
In 12 out of the 14 lost I changed formation from illegal to legal when it was safe to do so and the game changed 90 degrees with me suddenly being stronger and 'winning' that part of the game from then on. Every time.
The other two games it wasn't safe to try that as my opponent was so bad it was a close one to actually lose to them.