Anybody still think Nordeus are good guys?

[rastaman70]

Years ago, I was doing some stuff and I needed to contact an American company responsible for designing some audio codec. The chief programmer exchanged mails with me helping on my questions, just like that. I don't expect to have the chief programmer talk to me or to thousands of angry people, but some thing is very wrong here. Especially why there are so many angry people out there. Don't tell me it's like that in every successful game, because it's not.

Well this is actually a Facebook game without one animation, without music, well, not even one sound! Have you ever wondered how do you have such a large company with so many people and all you get is a little Adobe Flash game with fixed pictures and random lines of text like "Outstanding commitment", "He might go all the way!" and "Superbly time tackled!" (some even have spelling errors)? Also don't get amazed by the apparatus. Here in Lisbon there are lots of modern floors to rent and you can have nice and neat "ateliers" like the ones they show in their promotional videos very easily.

Look, the MyBB dev team is much smaller and they make a much more complicate software that serves thousands of sites, yet you can talk to any dev at any time, they make regular updates of what's going on, they tell you who comes from and goes to the staff, what are their functions and, unless you are aggro, they won't go after you hunting your posts down. Here one day you have an administrator taking punitive actions against everyone who questions anything, in the next day he's gone and has his account deleted, weeks later there's still no explanations and we are strongly advised to avoid making any questions about it.

I tell you what, a bunch of friends in the university decided to make a Facebook monetizing app just like Candy Crush or Farmville, a little fantasy gizmo with some very basic AI, but it grew exponentially as people demanded more from it and now the creators simply don't have means to go beyond this point. Look at the open job positions: Nordeus | Play anywhere, anytime | Creators of Top Eleven (actually "Creators of Top Eleven" and nothing else). It's been the same open positions for months and it's a one-game company ever since.

If they had the means, they would be using two or three dedicated datacentres spread across the globe, not just one normal provider in England for the whole world. It's as simple as that, they can't go beyond this, they are even making experiments to reduce server activity (that's what it is, the "new transfer market") because their servers are overloaded, they just didn't bring it to everyone yet because of the negative reaction. Don't think they don't read this forum, the guys are aware of everything we say and they know all too well why they avoid us. Their are stalled and the game is in maintenance mode.

I wish I was wrong but I'm afraid I'm not.

at the end of the day, there are those, like us, that know the ins and outs of the developer world and have a good idea on how this game is constructed. Some, like yourself, know the ins and outs of company structures and how is may apply to Nordeus.

The problem is there are a ton of nobodys out there that are either clueless or dont care about the company and/or how it delivers this product. We know that when a company says NOTHING, they are in trouble and/or hiding things from their customers/general public. again, the problem is there are ton of nobodys out there that really dont care.

I agree with you on EVERY point you make and you are bang on. I dont think anyone can dispute what you say, even Nordeus.

the issue is one of accountability. nobody can hold Nordeus accountable for their lack of communication and lack of professionalism. Well I lie, the customers can, but there are too many stupid football-mad punters that blindly throw money at this game in hopes of many pixelated trophies, that it buys time for Nordeus to make small and visually appealing (LOL) changes to calm the masses.

Look, this is what we know for sure:

- there are not as many people playing this game as they publish/profess.
- this game is not as complicated as other flash games, like you say, no moving parts, no serious visuals, no sounds.
- this game is unfair for those based in countries that lack advertising opportunities.
- the game engine is poorly programmed.
- there is a strict policy on this forum to curb negativeness about the game.
- it doesnt take 3 years to improve the game so little - enough time has passed to improve this game exponentially as other games have.

the main issue one must think about is that nordeus cant come out with anything about the game or the jig is up. they would have to admit that they cant improve the game with the resources they currently have (or they dont want to), and that would cause many to quit.

Seriously, they dont even put out their own wiki with everything you NEED to know to play properly....the wiki was created by a forum member FFS! You would think that someone at Nordeus would have the time to do this considering they have 120 employees.
Makes me think that they might only be playing the game themselves all day, instead of working on the game, and that would explain the bid-bot conspiracy (LOL, had to mention that)

right now they are not the good guys, they are setup for mediocrity and falling towards failure. I am saying that they are setup to collect bags of money for doing nothing while the game takes another year to peter out and something better comes along

[satansboss]

What are the chances of this thread being locked or deleted???

[Saransh Vatsa]

What are the chances of this thread being locked or deleted???

Reciprocal of the chances of 'Ask The Devs' happening...... Since the chances of the latter is 0%, the thread will be locked infinite % sure.... I know I sound like Dr. Sheldon Cooper here, not my fault

[fugazi]

The problem is there are a ton of nobodys out there that are either clueless or dont care about the company and/or how it delivers this product. We know that when a company says NOTHING, they are in trouble and/or hiding things from their customers/general public. again, the problem is there are ton of nobodys out there that really dont care.

Now, we (in this thread I assume) are all/mostly adults and should be able to determine our own opinions. Looking at it as a parentthough. what about the youingsters aged 8-16 years old? Mine is 6 now, and I hope he'll never gets into this game Too make sure the thread gets deleted, I'll say that it's highly unethical (to put it mildly) to target this group with their super low-entry of buying Tokens, making it available to the most vulnerable.

Don't get me wrong, I still have my fun with the game regardless, but that doesn't stop me from pointing out the obvious shortcomings.

[Celtic]

Don't get me wrong, I still have my fun with the game

Hmm, don't know what to tell you. Well, it's fun in a way:

http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...hah-whats.html

[Cat Harrison]

Now, we (in this thread I assume) are all/mostly adults and should be able to determine our own opinions. Looking at it as a parentthough. what about the youingsters aged 8-16 years old? Mine is 6 now, and I hope he'll never gets into this game Too make sure the thread gets deleted, I'll say that it's highly unethical (to put it mildly) to target this group with their super low-entry of buying Tokens, making it available to the most vulnerable.

Don't get me wrong, I still have my fun with the game regardless, but that doesn't stop me from pointing out the obvious shortcomings.

Children should be supervised. That's not the game maker's issue, it is a parent's.