I have no idea about how big difference it is. But i have one token buying friend who's lvl 13. And he has 8 and 9 star quality players against my 5 and 6 stars. We played 2 games - one when he was home team and one when I was at home. I lost both games with only 2-0. So it can't be super big difference eventough i clearly lost. I was expecting a 15-0 or something. And I'm just lvl 2.
I suspect that the engine treats the difference differently in Friendlies as opposed to Competition/League games..as in if it had been League, it would have been more lopsided.
Disclaimer: Purely based on experienced and is not based on a guide found anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy Vernersson
Yup. As Cat rightly mentioned, Friendlies are treated differently than competitive matches. In some friendlies you may even beat the crap out of someone 4-5 levels above you. You can just look at the skill points gained during friendlies and see that the players do not push as hard.
Similar when testing out players, it is impossible to use friendlies as a definitive gauge of how a player would perform in league, cl or cup matches. So take friendlies with a pinch of salt.
I was level 1 having a CRAP team and I challenged my friend who was level 24 three times...
I lost 2-0, 4-0, 3-0...
funny thing happened to me .... I was meeting same token buyers every season but than I decided to tank as i had few business trips scheduled and could not followed the team. They are now 1-2 levels above me, dont meet them and in lower level (my current level) they are not such a teams ..... probably they are but I am not meeting them ! I am just lucky or something but enjoying it more and more :)
What a novel concept. Enjoying a game because you are actually the stronger team and winning... I must try that some day... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirrowka
well said. token buyers are sad sad people. this is a facebook game, but like all pvp games on facebook it is ruined by the cheats who use money to gain advantage over other players, just to boost their ego or make themselves feel better or cleverer in some way. spending money does not make anyone clever or good at internet games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Hancock
i understand game developers are in this for money, but if they are going to allow people to buy tokens , they should put token buyers together in other leagues and cup competitions away from the rest of us so they can hit each other in the pocket and stop thinking they are clever by beating our lower level teams.
as michael says, it takes fun out of the game when we have to play against these token buyers /farmers or whatever they choose to call themselves. to me its just the same as drug cheats in any sport. it is using money to get an advantage over others, and the playing field is not a level one. put coiners in a league with other coiners and let the rest of us have a fair chance
so in answer to the original question, i'd say, put the coiners into their own league and have no limit on what they want to waste on a game. put the rest of us in a league with no option to buy tokens. not that i can see it happening, but no reason why that could not be arranged. players would just need to register their team at the beginning of the season as a token buying team or non token buying, then the limits would be set. if they want to change later at the end of the season, why not.
Sorry, but that's spectacularly unfair.Quote:
Originally Posted by nyfutty
1) Who are you to judge how these people spend their hard-earned money? It's not for me, either, but that doesn't make it wrong for others. I farm my tokens, so spend time rather than real cash, so is that wrong, too? I think not. It's how I choose to spend my time.
2) Why would Nordeus split token buyers from everyone else? Aside from the extra work, why would people buy tokens just to have the same level team as everyone they come up against? The point is to have better players than your opponents. Besides, who do you think they will listen to/favour...people who spend money or people who don't?
3) Is it the same as drug cheating, I ask? Given that drug cheating is illegal, so probably comparable to hacking, I think not. If you have to win to enjoy the game, then you are missing the point of it a little. There are ways to beat token-earners, you just have to spend a bit of time learning about formations and how the game works. It took me 7-8 seasons, I suspect, to learn all the basics and get myself a good knowledge of counter-formations/tactics and the like. I lost a lot in that time, but each defeat taught me something. And I'm only in season 13, so am still learning plenty every season.
Understand that this is a game that is intended to generate revenue for the developers. If it stops doing that, it will cease to exist.
One of my teams is in a server full of asian token buyers.
I Never meet them in LEAGUE and only ocasional i meet them on CL or CUP because of the huge diference in Quality.
Unless you have token buyers as friends, your team Will face similar quality teams, so the system already have quality in consideration.
Everyone is free to spend there money the way there whant.
Doesn't matter whether its a facebook game, browser game or windows client the internet will always be full of these pointless "waaaaah, you bought success, you cheat, you steal daddy's credit card" and "you leeching no-lifer! You want it all and you want it all paid with my money."
No change here.
Actually, I sleep with people/animals/furniture for tokens. Is that cheating, too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffs Mad
Even buying tokens via Fortumo ( mobile) does not guarantee you will receive it and it is frustrating contacting knowledge base and been told they get back to you to no avail
Very true gogs67. One will get relegated, lose ,matches. But you have to keep going. That's the beauty of Top Eleven :).
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Originally Posted by gogs67
Mate, let me tell you - money doesn't guarantee success in Top Eleven. Am in Level 15. Managed my finances very well over the last season, and spent them very aggressively to buy the youngest players. I play in a 4-3-3 formation. My average is 23.7 years. All 3 of my strikers are scouts, there is another scout in the team, a couple would become scouts anyday. Each player in my playing XI is at least a 5 star player.
But I am lying in the 13th position this season. Only 3 teams have better average quality than my team. What can you say :) ?
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Originally Posted by Michael Hancock
Its not a concept. I have to travel and have business meetings and if I see I will be on a travel for most of the month I dont play it properly just tank as I found out you will get penalized if you dont watch the games. So its not because I have to , but because I am forced to. I have not problem meeting stronger opponents as I can beat them ... like last year in Champions league when I have beaten 4 players level above me and lift the trophy. so think twice before you write such a stupid comment... ups.. think if you can :P