Negotiations

[Potemy]

Trade via Negotiation was very useful to The Eagles this concluding season. We sold 2GK both rated 39 at different point in the season for 15tokens each and double the players value! Great business deal. I reckon time to buy a scout GK next season from the token bounty

Were the offers from the same manager? Bids of 15 tokens don't come along every day, but I don't see why he'd want two scout goalkeepers. Most I've got is 2 tokens.

[Accyrover]

Were the offers from the same manager? Bids of 15 tokens don't come along every day, but I don't see why he'd want two scout goalkeepers. Most I've got is 2 tokens.

Maybe you need to draw then into the web.
Set the selling price at the tokens you want, Eg. 10 tokens, you can still accept the highest offer at any time upto the time deadline.

[Potemy]

Maybe you need to draw then into the web.
Set the selling price at the tokens you want, Eg. 10 tokens, you can still accept the highest offer at any time upto the time deadline.

I set a selling price of a token above the initial bid and still noone bites lol.

[Benlee4u]

I reckon it 2 different chap. I was only interested in the tokens...

Were the offers from the same manager? Bids of 15 tokens don't come along every day, but I don't see why he'd want two scout goalkeepers. Most I've got is 2 tokens.

[neonwired]

Were the offers from the same manager? Bids of 15 tokens don't come along every day, but I don't see why he'd want two scout goalkeepers. Most I've got is 2 tokens.

That's the fatal flaw that makes negotiations pointless, why would anyone accept 2 tokens for a player that probably cost them 10 times that? To make an offer that's anywhere near what a player is worth is going to cost you 40+ tokens so you might as well spend 10 extra and get a scout player that's way better. It can never possibly work. The numbers don't add up, you're always going to be paying more than a player is worth.

[Potemy]

That's the fatal flaw that makes negotiations pointless, why would anyone accept 2 tokens for a player that probably cost them 10 times that? To make an offer that's anywhere near what a player is worth is going to cost you 40+ tokens so you might as well spend 10 extra and get a scout player that's way better. It can never possibly work. The numbers don't add up, you're always going to be paying more than a player is worth.

Not true. If you sell him on auctions, you get no tokens at all, and that's the only other way you can get rid of players you don't need any more. You should see the tokens you get from negotiations as a bonus, and you'll also get a reasonable amount of money as well, more than what you usually get on auctions.

[neonwired]

Not true. If you sell him on auctions, you get no tokens at all, and that's the only other way you can get rid of players you don't need any more. You should see the tokens you get from negotiations as a bonus, and you'll also get a reasonable amount of money as well, more than what you usually get on auctions.

But the players in negotiations aren't generally unwanted players, although some may be odds suggest most wont be, there is no way of knowing if you're bidding on an unwanted player that someone might accept a few coins just to get rid of or an important player they just bought for 50 coins that you haven't a hope of getting. Unless you can choose to add an unwanted player to the transfer list, negotiations remain pointless and that isn't going to happen as it would render auctions obsolete and, as auctions likely make nordeus more money, they're not going to do that.

A way forward that might work and would be slightly more realistic would be to use the transfer list only to sell players and leave auctions for bidding on unsigned young players. That way Nordeus still make token money from both possibly more.

[Potemy]

But the players in negotiations aren't generally unwanted players, although some may be odds suggest most wont be, there is no way of knowing if you're bidding on an unwanted player that someone might accept a few coins just to get rid of or an important player they just bought for 50 coins that you haven't a hope of getting. Unless you can choose to add an unwanted player to the transfer list, negotiations remain pointless and that isn't going to happen as it would render auctions obsolete and, as auctions likely make nordeus more money, they're not going to do that.

A way forward that might work and would be slightly more realistic would be to use the transfer list only to sell players and leave auctions for bidding on unsigned young players. That way Nordeus still make token money from both possibly more.

How did you come up with that? Players are only on the negotiations list if they are 1 or 2 skill points away from their next star. If you want to keep the player, he'll only be there for a few days, and then he'll get his next star, also bids don't come in all that often. Therefore, majority of players on the negotiations list are players that managers want to be there, we leave them a skill point or two away from their next star and let them rack up the skill points, maybe use those skill points to give them another position or an SA so that they are more desirable.

[neonwired]

How did you come up with that? Players are only on the negotiations list if they are 1 or 2 skill points away from their next star. If you want to keep the player, he'll only be there for a few days, and then he'll get his next star, also bids don't come in all that often. Therefore, majority of players on the negotiations list are players that managers want to be there, we leave them a skill point or two away from their next star and let them rack up the skill points, maybe use those skill points to give them another position or an SA so that they are more desirable.

That doesn't make sense though, it's not always possible to get unwanted players anywhere near a next star, especially if they are older (which are more likely to be unwanted), it could takes months to do that, if you could improve players that easily they might not be unwanted! So in reality only a small percentage of the players on the list will be there deliberately and as I said you have no way of knowing. A player only needs to be there a few minutes to be bid on so at any one time the majority of players on the list will be first team players as there's more of them in general that's just maths. So considering that, firstly you have to wait up to 24 hours just to find out your offers are futile, and secondly the chance of actually bidding on a player that you need that's actually for sale being so low. The whole thing is a waste of time, you could might as well save a few more tokens and get a player twice as good from scout.

[Potemy]

That doesn't make sense though, it's not always possible to get unwanted players anywhere near a next star, especially if they are older (which are more likely to be unwanted), it could takes months to do that, if you could improve players that easily they might not be unwanted!.

Then they'll just be sold on auctions. If they're nowhere near their next star, they'll be nowhere near negotiations.

Only those that are already near their next star will be kept to be sold on negotiations.