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    Quote Originally Posted by Gintaras Račas View Post
    Nobody plays 1* players in serious matches, lol. I played one yesterday vs an abandoned team and ofc he got a good rating. Oh, and GK's ratings are messed up so don't mind that.
    35T teams that have 1* players who perform well play them in serious matches. My 3rd team @level 5 has a non-SA striker playing in a counterattacking team who has scored 77 career goals in 128 matches, including the Cup Winning goal.

    Any favouring of low star players in the rankings imo will be relative. It will depend who they are up against. If there is a chance to be better rewarded it will be balanced by the quality gap that makes it less likely they will do enough to actually get it.

    I do not believe and have not seen automatically higher ratings for low star players but I have seen very high rated 1* players, just like I've seen very high rated 7* players.

    You really won't get any proper proof....better to forget proof and go with 'feel'. I might do some friendlies between my 2 levl 5 teams over next few days and compare ratings....if not I'll post some 1* player ratings after a few games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffs Mad View Post
    35T teams that have 1* players who perform well play them in serious matches. My 3rd team @level 5 has a non-SA striker playing in a counterattacking team who has scored 77 career goals in 128 matches, including the Cup Winning goal.

    Any favouring of low star players in the rankings imo will be relative. It will depend who they are up against. If there is a chance to be better rewarded it will be balanced by the quality gap that makes it less likely they will do enough to actually get it.

    I do not believe and have not seen automatically higher ratings for low star players but I have seen very high rated 1* players, just like I've seen very high rated 7* players.

    You really won't get any proper proof....better to forget proof and go with 'feel'. I might do some friendlies between my 2 levl 5 teams over next few days and compare ratings....if not I'll post some 1* player ratings after a few games.
    I wouldn't suggest that there are 'favourable' ratings for low-star players, only that they need to do less to qualify for a better rating. This, in turn, makes their ratings a tad misleading.

    The problem with not being able to collate any actual data and going with 'feel' is that this becomes opinion-based and, therefore, difficult to quantify. To be fair, this does seem to be the only way to draw conclusions in T11, as much of it doesn't seem to add up when analysed. And, in additional fairness, this actually does mirror real-life football. Often, nobody can explain why a player is so good one week and completely toilet the next...

    I would be wary when using friendlies to try and figure out in-game idiosyncrasies...I think it's fairly well-established that the conditions for friendly games are different to those of competitive matches. I've tried to do this...for example, I played the same match twice in succession, with exactly the same condition/orders, etc for both matches and got totally different results. Again, not unlike real football, to be fair to Nordeus.

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    my players usually perform bad when i get drunk or eat too much chocolate..:| anyone else?^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeckStar View Post
    my players usually perform bad when i get drunk or eat too much chocolate..:| anyone else?^^
    What sort of chocolates and what do you drink.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeckStar View Post
    my players usually perform bad when i get drunk or eat too much chocolate..:| anyone else?^^
    I'm not a real fan of chocolate but I have been drinking...A LOT as of late. Maybe that's why I haven't anything resembling a defense in awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by russ2000_uk View Post
    Have seen a few posts here about the ratings of 1* players and how they seem to perform...however, would a rating of 9 for a 1* be comparable to a 5 for a 5*?

    Just wondering how it works...
    Make sure that all players are equal with their stars (4*-5*). I usually do this just to my first squad. The ratings are just temporary

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    I think ratings are related to how often a player interacts with the ball, regardless of stars.
    Expressed above is my own opinion. Your results may vary.
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    In this game (through many seasons of playing) I'd say that the ratings tend to outdo the *'s.
    If you look at a 'troll' result, where a team loses to another that is maybe average 2*'s worse you'll see the lower level players will rate 8's and 9's, whereas the better team will only it 5's, 6's and 7's.
    Saying that, over a season i'd rather have a team of 7 * players playing average than 2* players playing well!

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    When I performed 5,6,7 and 8 levels,I had a ML/AML player who didn't grow up his rating so fast ( from 41 to 45) ,but in my classical 4-5-1, he had very good performances against appearently better quality opponents and he scored more than ST players.

    Starting from level 9,of course,where I had to face 55 mean quality level MR,I had to sell him.

    This means that the performance of a player depends on quality level,but also,age,correct role(native role if he has learned other roles),motivation.

    Motivation is the key element: if a very good rated (and also young) player performs bad and improves worst,because he has nothing more to give for the team,I sell him without esitation.

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    An avg 7-8 rated 4 star player over an avg 5-6 rated scout any time. Don't mind a bad rating once in a while, but 5-6 avg will cost you matches sooner or later when 4's start coming when in bad form. That's all I can make of it myself.
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