Top Eleven 2015

[Daniel]

Do you like the new version? Only 11% like this version. What are they going to do with that info!! I think they will probably do nothing. Does the percentage of yes need to be at 1% before they realise they have got it wrong. Surely from a business perspective they need to go back to the old version. Then they could go back to the drawing board and get it all right in time for mourinho next birthday. I am sure mourinho wouldn't give a ****

[cookizzz]

After further testing, generally speaking, the new version is not so bad as I originally feel. I love to find that same type of training can immediately be arranged for several times. I believe Nordeus forces automatically applying skill points upon generation because it does not like users accumulating skill points. However, as it is allowed to set training preference of each player beforehand, we can still control the areas the players will improve. I also believe option for developing special ability will be resumed soon as I cannot imagine if there is any difficulty. The interface layout is also acceptable for me.

However, this version is clearly a beta version that many features, including old ones, have not yet been implemented. This is unacceptable. Besides, even though I may understand that they don't want users accumulating skill points, I think this feature actually make this game different and attracted users who enjoy full control on players' area of development. Moreover, I still hate beautiful but meaningless graphics which just made the game slow and hard to use especially for small screen mobile phone users. I still prefer the old version which is similar in design to browser version so that I need less time to adapt.

I am a browser version users and use Android apps as supplementary tool. I tried the new Android apps with focus on the functions that I usually normally use with mobile phone. Here are my responses:

- In the past, the news were automatically filtered that only a small portion is marked as unread. Now, it seems many of them, probably all, are shown as 'unread'. It's hard to select important news to read.

- In squad overview, the arrows showing players move direction is difficult to notice. The percentage of condition & morale can no longer be clearly shown as figures, or is clearly shown as that in browser version.

- I like the new tactics maintenance screen even though I don't like its look.

- At this instance, my team have not yet needed training. But I believe that no training intensity option will be fine to me.

- I did not bid player through mobile phone in the past. But I love to find sorting is allowed in mobile version and may try if needed.

- For various competitions, competition prize information is still not available. But the new playoff tree are nice.

- It's good that club and shop are separated.

- On watching live match of friend, the formation of the team is not updated even though substitutions are shown. I also don't like auto switching to supporter screen when a new supporter is arrived.

- Nice to notice that the competition level of CUP is correctly shown (if my understanding is correct). My team is now level 18. My team is 1st runner up in CUP. In trophies screen, it shown that I was 5th for league level 17, 1st for CL level 17, and 2nd for CUP level 18

- The Tickets and Bonuses screens are good to show the bonus and ticket prices of league, CL, Cup and friendly matches at the same time. That's better than browser version.

- The stadium graphic is much better but is useless to me. In the past, I can easily figure out the purpose of each building, but not now.

Conclusion:
The new version may not the worst. But I do not want spend much time to adapt to it. If a similar version will apply to browser version, it is good chance for me to quit it all.

[spornybol]

After further testing, generally speaking, the new version is not so bad as I originally feel. I love to find that same type of training can immediately be arranged for several times. I believe Nordeus forces automatically applying skill points upon generation because it does not like users accumulating skill points. However, as it is allowed to set training preference of each users beforehand, we can still control the areas the players will improve. I also believe option for developing special ability will be resumed soon as I cannot imagine if there is any difficulty. The interface layout is also acceptable for me.

However, this version is clearly a beta version that many features, including old ones, have not yet been implemented. This is unacceptable. Besides, even though I may understand that they don't want users accumulating skill points, I think this feature actually make this game different and attracted users who enjoy full control on players' area of development. Moreover, I still hate beautiful but meaningless graphics which just made the game slow and hard to use especially for small screen mobile phone users. I still prefer the old version which is similar in design to browser version so that I need less time to adapt.

i get some features are are good especially for phone user`s apart from using their battery life but now they have neg list and a couple more option that they never had compared to laptop.

but as i said in earlier post i don`t the idea of auto assign skill point`s as i save 50 skill point`s to add new position/ability when i reach his target but if the league is tighter than a ducks ass at least i have an option too change my mind and improve player`s rating.

also with being higher level the prize money does not cover my wages, yesterday was 6 million down and that`s after playing a friendly too so i try too even my bank balance by leaving player/players` that i won`t be using 1 skill away from next star to earn that extra money plus earn those valuable tokens.

[Jernet]

I think I've made my view pretty clear re. missing ability to view condition percentages and fact that auto-assigment of skill points in the current gone-in-a-flash-b4-you-can-see-what-happens implementation takes the management out of a management game, which is not a brilliant idea ...!

However, 2015 contains some bugs as well:

For example, in Squad view, if you assign a morale booster to a player, the players' morale status arrow is not updated until you reload the page by going to another menu item and then back to Squad. Cost me a few boosters spent in vain b4 I realised there was a bug there ...

Also, the match overview windows very often load the star ratings of the teams you viewed the last time you opened the window, not the teams you are currently viewing.

I know I should report these through Support, but I can't be assed, because there's so much proceure stuff one has to go through to report a bug.

Thought you guys might wanna know, though, so that you don't spend morale boosters on nothing.

[Knipser]

Look here is the deal. By your own admission, and based on the fact you can't sell players, you have a few gamers who are at the top of this game (started before others) and are affected by the changes. The majority of the players are in the bottom of the list season 1-10 not 16-24. So these changes are good for then but bad for you. You are the minority. You can't dictate to the majority and you won't change the game even if you complain. Sorry mate. I am not being an ass, I am trying to tell it like it is.

How is it good, that I can not see percentages of fatigue anymore?
How is it good, that you can't train special abilities anymore?
How is it good, this App crashes every other minute and needs to be reset?
How is it good, that I can only list no more than only one single player in my favourites anylonger?
How is it good, that I can't see players salaries in the transfer section anymore?
How is it good, that after the update battery doesn't last as long anymore?
How is it good that I can't see facility progress of all facilities in a single overview anymore?

Auto-assign? Yes, I - myself can live with that, since I wasn't saving any skill-points. No complaint on this one. But the rest stated above? Irellevant? Wake up!

Besides that I am only in one of the very entry levels of this game and was really badly surprised by this minor beta-quality of this crappy update. And I have purchased Tokens and watched Videos. I am sure I am a net-contributer. Nordeus Needs exactly people like me and the ones complaining here.

The madness that you are suggesting is that 149 people represent the majority of the players! Give it a break Sean. this whole forum is a tiny percentage of the users and mostly old timers. So you are over represented. Either way, things won't change because 149 people are upset.

You might be a troll or you might be upset about people complaining about auto-skill-distribution, while you like it. Get over it. There is many more complaints here. If it was just for auto-skill, I had been a very happy dancer. But I am not. Not at all!

Best update ever? I can't jugde since I just started to play this game but if that was the best, then I wouldn't want to go on playing and I wouldn't get why there were 90% complaints in this Forum. It is what it is: a big fail.

The solution would have been to integrate a diverse group of lead-users into the development of a new version and have them asked what their Needs are and use them to test new updates before implementing.

I was speachless with all my frustration around this update before I found this thread. Many others are in the same situation. They simply don't know where to communicate their frustrations about this. But just because you don't see them, doesn't mean they are not there. Now, if Nordeus cares about customers they can read this thread and do something about it.

You think peoples opinions on this forum are irrelevant? Ever heard of the term opinion-leaders? There is even a significant amount of people not posting here but reading this. What influence do you think people who post here have on these readers. Never-ever underestimate the influence and impact of lead-users and opinion-leaders.

[srasher]

Does anyone know what the value of cash next to each of your friends profile means in your friends list? I guess its your team value and current budget, however it is often higher then both these combined?

[spornybol]

Does anyone know what the value of cash next to each of your friends profile means in your friends list? I guess its your team value and current budget, however it is often higher then both these combined?

should say budget = transfer money too spend and team value = the combined value of all player`s with transfer fee

[srasher]

A friend in my list has 1.05 bn next to his name yet his tranfer money is 350 and team value is 302 million?

[cookizzz]

i get some features are are good especially for phone user`s apart from using their battery life but now they have neg list and a couple more option that they never had compared to laptop.

but as i said in earlier post i don`t the idea of auto assign skill point`s as i save 50 skill point`s to add new position/ability when i reach his target but if the league is tighter than a ducks ass at least i have an option too change my mind and improve player`s rating.

also with being higher level the prize money does not cover my wages, yesterday was 6 million down and that`s after playing a friendly too so i try too even my bank balance by leaving player/players` that i won`t be using 1 skill away from next star to earn that extra money plus earn those valuable tokens.

The new versions improve in some areas but all are not the areas I concern. It is clear that some financial problem is huge in higher levels. Nordeus is easy to make it more workable by adjusting some figures like league prizes, sponsorships and players' value but they just ignore these. No program change is required. I am really disappointed.

Allowing users to hold skill points may be a rare and unrealistic for football manager games but this makes this game different and attracts some users. I also hold skill points of some players to ensure they're easier to be sold. Personally I am fine without this but I fully support those users who smartly use this feature.

Furthermore, I frequently encounter network connection error on starting. The apps ask whether I want to retry but actually I have no choice but it will retry. I have to stop by kill the apps.

[spornybol]

How is it good, that I can not see percentages of fatigue anymore?
How is it good, that you can't train special abilities anymore?
How is it good, this App crashes every other minute and needs to be reset?
How is it good, that I can only list no more than only one single player in my favourites anylonger?
How is it good, that I can't see players salaries in the transfer section anymore?
How is it good, that after the update battery doesn't last as long anymore?
How is it good that I can't see facility progress of all facilities in a single overview anymore?

Auto-assign? Yes, I - myself can live with that, since I wasn't saving any skill-points. No complaint on this one. But the rest stated above? Irellevant? Wake up!

Besides that I am only in one of the very entry levels of this game and was really badly surprised by this minor beta-quality of this crappy update. And I have purchased Tokens and watched Videos. I am sure I am a net-contributer. Nordeus Needs exactly people like me and the ones complaining here.




You might be a troll or you might be upset about people complaining about auto-skill-distribution, while you like it. Get over it. There is many more complaints here. If it was just for auto-skill, I had been a very happy dancer. But I am not. Not at all!

Best update ever? I can't jugde since I just started to play this game but if that was the best, then I wouldn't want to go on playing and I wouldn't get why there were 90% complaints in this Forum. It is what it is: a big fail.

The solution would have been to integrate a diverse group of lead-users into the development of a new version and have them asked what their Needs are and use them to test new updates before implementing.

I was speachless with all my frustration around this update before I found this thread. Many others are in the same situation. They simply don't know where to communicate their frustrations about this. But just because you don't see them, doesn't mean they are not there. Now, if Nordeus cares about customers they can read this thread and do something about it.

You think peoples opinions on this forum are irrelevant? Ever heard of the term opinion-leaders? There is even a significant amount of people not posting here but reading this. What influence do you think people who post here have on these readers. Never-ever underestimate the influence and impact of lead-users and opinion-leaders.

quote- The solution would have been to integrate a diverse group of lead-users into the development of a new version and have them asked what their Needs are and use them to test new updates before implementing.

they had Beta tester`s from forum ( i was aked but too busy ) and one thing that stood out was the auto assign that one tester did not like now i can`t know what else they said either good or bad but as i know 1 tester disagreed i`m also guessing a few other`s would not have liked but did these developer`s listen too these tester`s my guess like hell, they still went ahead with it and now all we getis we will take into account and pass on to developer`s seems this is the only answer they can give ?