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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Renn View Post
    It also depends on bonus u give,if u give win bonus to win some thing else than league u loose with each more round more money,it's ironic but full win bonus Is a huge minus for every away game,also I said before don't count on 4 friendlies a day,not everyone has the time all day T 11, I bought token and invested in Personal trainer which made me not buying player 5 seasons,only once a while ,without actually need.
    If u play a normal game without having time for these many friendlies u will have problems,u say yourself u play them,ever thought how ur balance would look like with only playing regular games??
    If u play next season no friendlies I would like to see ur balance,for the average player it's hardly possible ,n they invest token if no time for friendlies ,or as it's shown they go bankrupt

    Depending on Bonus YES and NO^^

    This season, if i would have spend MAX Bonus (i usually spend min Bonus and raise for exportant games^^) i won 16 Games which means 240 Millions Bonus. Actually i spend 158 Mills (hopefully 188 Mills at end of season^^ because League Champs decision is today and tomorrow^^) as you see 150 Mills WIN there would also be a WIN if i spend Max bonus (about 50 to 70 Millions)

    I made a little Math: Lets take about a Perfect Season

    this will be 52 regular Matches and 52 Wins

    This means 780 Million Bonus about 1012 Millions for Wages (22 Players with a mddle Wage of 46 Million^^) and let say 5 new Players for about hmm 115 Millions per Player which means 575 Millions. Together this results in 2367 Millions

    on the Other Side will be:

    Ticket selling Regular Games 15,6 Millions per regular Game 24 Games at home 374,4 Million
    Ticket selling FM´s 98 each means 6,06 Millions 593,88
    Sponsor round about 47 Millions
    Bonus that i will receive
    League between 80 Million for Rank 6 to 105 Millions for Rank 1 so lets say 90 Millions for fourth
    Bonus per game 47,58 Millions
    CUP List of Bonus for each Round (4,1 6,16 8,2 10,66 14,86 18,02 11,7 and 3,51) Result 77,21 Millions
    CL no exact Values here-.- but round aboout 6,5 Millions each Game before 1/8 final, let say 8 Million for 1/8 final 10 for 1/4 12 for 1/2 15 for Final and 5 for Wining this will be round about 119 Millions

    Selling 5 Players^^ from last season(each for cheapest Price about 78 Millions each) 390 Million
    Selling 2 Zero-Token-Player from Youth academy for cheapest Prize 78 Millions 156 Millions
    Merchandising Regular Games 4,4 to 5 Millions each game 24 Games at home (Math was taken with 4,5 Millions) 108 Millions
    Merchandising FM about 1,6 Mill each game 156,8 Millions

    Total sum 2159,87 Mills A lose of 208 Millions in a PERFECT Season . 35 Tokens available from TV-Sponsor 10 Token for buying this 5 Players (ok this can be a little bit difficult^^ but this season i bought 10 18y 5stars for together 12 Tokens^^) means 25 Tokens left each Season to spend. Each 4 Seasons (all Seasons had to be PERFECT) a lose of 832 Million an 100 Token to spend 85 Token means actually 536 millions from the bank, results in 296 Million lose in 4 Seasons (74 Millions per Year)

    ANd this means when you spend NO Bonus in only 5 Matches (For example the last two Games in CL after qualifiying for 1/8final and the last three Games in League because you should be Champ there at this time) each season will save 75 Millions each seaon, so there would be no lose of Money and no need to Buy token^^.

    Of course it belongs to make the FM consequently, and i said i stay at the FM´s, BUT i didn´t say its to get the Money. Its to get the GREEN and Blue PACKS^^
    Time to plan 4 FM´s? hmm about 1 minute to change the squad from A to B, 2 Minutes to check how much FM´s i could make, and 2 Minutes to plan them (i make this games against much weaker opponnents like my Wife:-D:-D)
    so it doesnt take much time in effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burle17 View Post
    Depending on Bonus YES and NO^^

    This season, if i would have spend MAX Bonus (i usually spend min Bonus and raise for exportant games^^) i won 16 Games which means 240 Millions Bonus. Actually i spend 158 Mills (hopefully 188 Mills at end of season^^ because League Champs decision is today and tomorrow^^) as you see 150 Mills WIN there would also be a WIN if i spend Max bonus (about 50 to 70 Millions)

    I made a little Math: Lets take about a Perfect Season

    this will be 52 regular Matches and 52 Wins

    This means 780 Million Bonus about 1012 Millions for Wages (22 Players with a mddle Wage of 46 Million^^) and let say 5 new Players for about hmm 115 Millions per Player which means 575 Millions. Together this results in 2367 Millions

    on the Other Side will be:

    Ticket selling Regular Games 15,6 Millions per regular Game 24 Games at home 374,4 Million
    Ticket selling FM´s 98 each means 6,06 Millions 593,88
    Sponsor round about 47 Millions
    Bonus that i will receive
    League between 80 Million for Rank 6 to 105 Millions for Rank 1 so lets say 90 Millions for fourth
    Bonus per game 47,58 Millions
    CUP List of Bonus for each Round (4,1 6,16 8,2 10,66 14,86 18,02 11,7 and 3,51) Result 77,21 Millions
    CL no exact Values here-.- but round aboout 6,5 Millions each Game before 1/8 final, let say 8 Million for 1/8 final 10 for 1/4 12 for 1/2 15 for Final and 5 for Wining this will be round about 119 Millions

    Selling 5 Players^^ from last season(each for cheapest Price about 78 Millions each) 390 Million
    Selling 2 Zero-Token-Player from Youth academy for cheapest Prize 78 Millions 156 Millions
    Merchandising Regular Games 4,4 to 5 Millions each game 24 Games at home (Math was taken with 4,5 Millions) 108 Millions
    Merchandising FM about 1,6 Mill each game 156,8 Millions

    Total sum 2159,87 Mills A lose of 208 Millions in a PERFECT Season . 35 Tokens available from TV-Sponsor 10 Token for buying this 5 Players (ok this can be a little bit difficult^^ but this season i bought 10 18y 5stars for together 12 Tokens^^) means 25 Tokens left each Season to spend. Each 4 Seasons (all Seasons had to be PERFECT) a lose of 832 Million an 100 Token to spend 85 Token means actually 536 millions from the bank, results in 296 Million lose in 4 Seasons (74 Millions per Year)

    ANd this means when you spend NO Bonus in only 5 Matches (For example the last two Games in CL after qualifiying for 1/8final and the last three Games in League because you should be Champ there at this time) each season will save 75 Millions each seaon, so there would be no lose of Money and no need to Buy token^^.

    Of course it belongs to make the FM consequently, and i said i stay at the FM´s, BUT i didn´t say its to get the Money. Its to get the GREEN and Blue PACKS^^
    Time to plan 4 FM´s? hmm about 1 minute to change the squad from A to B, 2 Minutes to check how much FM´s i could make, and 2 Minutes to plan them (i make this games against much weaker opponnents like my Wife:-D:-D)
    so it doesnt take much time in effort.
    Wow that is a really detailed calculation you made right there. Nice to se it in numers. I just had the about calculations in my head.

    I (if auto assign dosen't ruin it) sell a few via negotiations that can range between 125-190 milions per players +Tokens, wich easily replaces them with new 18 years fasttrainers from action.

    Thanks again for putting numers and totals on the budget
    Last edited by Gert Funck; 03-06-2015 at 08:23 PM. Reason: big fingers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gert Funck View Post
    Wow that is a really detailed calculation you made right there. Nice to se it in numers. I just had the about calculations in my head.

    I (if auto assign dosen't ruin it) sell a few via negotiations that can range between 125-190 milions per players +Tokens, wich easily replaces them with new 18 years fasttrainers from action.

    Thanks again for putting numers and totals on the budget
    Calc wasn´t that difficult^^, Numbers all a bit toward the bad side, fo example Wages middle 46 Mills my actual squad wages have a Rangfe from 42,x Mills to 45,6 Mills, or the Player from Youth academy can easily sold for 100 Mills not 78 and so on.

    But as Peter Renn said of course the Main Key in there are the FM´s without them its much more difficult with Money in higher Levels^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burle17 View Post
    Depending on Bonus YES and NO^^

    This season, if i would have spend MAX Bonus (i usually spend min Bonus and raise for exportant games^^) i won 16 Games which means 240 Millions Bonus. Actually i spend 158 Mills (hopefully 188 Mills at end of season^^ because League Champs decision is today and tomorrow^^) as you see 150 Mills WIN there would also be a WIN if i spend Max bonus (about 50 to 70 Millions)

    I made a little Math: Lets take about a Perfect Season

    this will be 52 regular Matches and 52 Wins

    This means 780 Million Bonus about 1012 Millions for Wages (22 Players with a mddle Wage of 46 Million^^) and let say 5 new Players for about hmm 115 Millions per Player which means 575 Millions. Together this results in 2367 Millions

    on the Other Side will be:

    Ticket selling Regular Games 15,6 Millions per regular Game 24 Games at home 374,4 Million
    Ticket selling FM´s 98 each means 6,06 Millions 593,88
    Sponsor round about 47 Millions
    Bonus that i will receive
    League between 80 Million for Rank 6 to 105 Millions for Rank 1 so lets say 90 Millions for fourth
    Bonus per game 47,58 Millions
    CUP List of Bonus for each Round (4,1 6,16 8,2 10,66 14,86 18,02 11,7 and 3,51) Result 77,21 Millions
    CL no exact Values here-.- but round aboout 6,5 Millions each Game before 1/8 final, let say 8 Million for 1/8 final 10 for 1/4 12 for 1/2 15 for Final and 5 for Wining this will be round about 119 Millions

    Selling 5 Players^^ from last season(each for cheapest Price about 78 Millions each) 390 Million
    Selling 2 Zero-Token-Player from Youth academy for cheapest Prize 78 Millions 156 Millions
    Merchandising Regular Games 4,4 to 5 Millions each game 24 Games at home (Math was taken with 4,5 Millions) 108 Millions
    Merchandising FM about 1,6 Mill each game 156,8 Millions

    Total sum 2159,87 Mills A lose of 208 Millions in a PERFECT Season . 35 Tokens available from TV-Sponsor 10 Token for buying this 5 Players (ok this can be a little bit difficult^^ but this season i bought 10 18y 5stars for together 12 Tokens^^) means 25 Tokens left each Season to spend. Each 4 Seasons (all Seasons had to be PERFECT) a lose of 832 Million an 100 Token to spend 85 Token means actually 536 millions from the bank, results in 296 Million lose in 4 Seasons (74 Millions per Year)

    ANd this means when you spend NO Bonus in only 5 Matches (For example the last two Games in CL after qualifiying for 1/8final and the last three Games in League because you should be Champ there at this time) each season will save 75 Millions each seaon, so there would be no lose of Money and no need to Buy token^^.

    Of course it belongs to make the FM consequently, and i said i stay at the FM´s, BUT i didn´t say its to get the Money. Its to get the GREEN and Blue PACKS^^
    Time to plan 4 FM´s? hmm about 1 minute to change the squad from A to B, 2 Minutes to check how much FM´s i could make, and 2 Minutes to plan them (i make this games against much weaker opponnents like my Wife:-D:-D)
    so it doesnt take much time in effort.
    Nice,but once again,leave the money for friendlies aside,u say 600 million per season ,it's In ur calculation ,and ur lose wouldn't be 200 million,it would be 800 million,once again,some people don't have time to do that,they have jobs ,family ,A Life ha ha,I totally can imagine with out investing T u sooner o later bankrupt....
    And u call yourself Extreme active,while I'm talking about the average player,enjoying his 2 Games a day n then spending the rest of the day doing something else.
    I don't need blue packs through friendlies,won all league matches throughout 3 seasons,except 1 draw ,so I'm 77-1-0 in 3 season with 3 cups n 5 champions league in a row,having over 300 blues just through my 2 Games a day,not losing games n give bonus is the best way to save blues,last time one of my player had moral less than -good- was 5 seasons ago ha ha,
    Last edited by Peter Renn; 03-06-2015 at 09:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Renn View Post
    Nice,but once again,leave the money for friendlies aside,u say 600 million per season ,it's In ur calculation ,and ur lose wouldn't be 200 million,it would be 800 million,once again,some people don't have time to do that,they have jobs ,family ,A Life ha ha,I totally can imagine with out investing T u sooner o later bankrupt....
    And u call yourself Extreme active,while I'm talking about the average player,enjoying his 2 Games a day n then spending the rest of the day doing something else.
    I don't need blue packs through friendlies,won all league matches throughout 3 seasons,except 1 draw ,so I'm 77-1-0 in 3 season with 3 cups n 5 champions league in a row,having over 300 blues just through my 2 Games a day,not losing games n give bonus is the best way to save blues,last time one of my player had moral less than -good- was 5 seasons ago ha ha,

    Yes of course as you and i said WITHOUT FM´s it´s really difficult (i think reduce the Squadsize to Min of 14 or 15 Players doesn´t be Enough^^, so reducing the Bonus is a MUST and this can mean even not so good seasons :-D)

    I only wanted to show that the Message "At higher Levels there is no Chance to play without Token, because if you play without there will be a Bankrupt" isn´t true every time. There are Ways to avoid that, and it doesn´t take hours of playing each Day^^, 5 to 10 Minutes do the job^^

    I´m not soooo extreme acitve as you thought^^. I´m quite extreme active last two Seasons, not for the Game alone more for Testing new Things (for me PT^^) and do a little bit Stats and Math (i love doing math and stats^^ that was a "job" in Betatesting "anstoss3")

    I played 3 Years WOW THAT means extreme active, T11 is a little bit (muchmuchmuchmuch more^^) less against that^^

    But its good that not every player is like me (what a nightmare^^), and if a player think "it makes more fun to restart, than its ABSOLUTLY ok.

    My Way is not THE Way, its simply a Way that can be possible^^

    And thanks for the Tipp how to spend the Greens next Season, i was shocked as i see how much my fast trainer loses efficiency as he reached 7 Star (from about 4,8 per Regpoint down to 3,1 (normal stretching brings about 8,9 or 10) it will be cost about 190 Packs to get 8 Star, so i decide to let him go to 8 Star (because i want a 8 star player^^), and save the other Packs for one or two Players that are fast trainers (most of my first squad is at middle between 6 and 7 Star so next Season they all can get their 6 Star easily, and 1 or 2 of them will go to 7 star with packs and my best Striker from 6 to 8 Star, i hope my Packs are enough to do that^^

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