How to win against this ?

[ElPocho]

How to win against this formation , because even that i'm stronger than his team i lost 2-0 in a away match champions league and i was playing 4-3-3 .So i still have a chance to win my home match but not playing 4-3-3 i guess .

[Sully]

How to win against this formation , because even that i'm stronger than his team i lost 2-0 in a away match champions league and i was playing 4-3-3 .So i still have a chance to win my home match but not playing 4-3-3 i guess .

3-2-2-2-1 butterfly usually does the trick. that is what I use.

---------ST---------
AML-------------AMR
-----MC-----MC-------
DML----------------DMR
-------DC--DC--DC-----



or 3-2-2-1-2 up the middle

-------ST---ST---------
---------AMC-----------
------MC-----MC-------
DML----------------DMR
-------DC--DC--DC-----

[ElPocho]

But if i cover only the middle like a did with 4-3-3 i ll leave the wings wide open and lose again don't you think ? how about 3- 5 -2

[Branescu Alex]

You can try 3-3W-1-3 , you need to score an you cover the wide positions in middle , good luck

--------ST ST ST---------
-----------AMC-----------
ML---------MC---------MR
--------------------------
-------DC--DC--DC-------

[Fail G]

In a way I hope you don't find a good counter to it, this is one of my main two used formations!

But I think my other main formation might be a good way to go against this?

----ST----ST-----
LW-----------RW
-------CM--------
--CDM---CDM--
LB----CB----RB
-------GK--------

[nikolgiorgos]

Well, this system, 4-5-1 V it's one of the 4-5 most popular formations. You can play with orders defensive/through flanks/counter and it's maybe the most successful formation against better q teams.
Also I can add that for unknown reasons, many times, it's favoured by the program
I play against it with 3 Def. wide, 1 DMC to cut the oppo counters, 2 MC, 2 wingers and 2 ST.
With that positions you can face all oppo counters, specially if you have better quality and in good form players.
But the key is to play with the same defending mentality and counters. If you try attack it can destroy you.
If you are unlucky and take a goal from the oppo, things are very tough cause as you trying attacking, the more dangerous is to accept a second goal from counters.
So be patient

[ElPocho]

how about this as a counter ? what do you all think ?


or this one
?

[Sully]

But if i cover only the middle like a did with 4-3-3 i ll leave the wings wide open and lose again don't you think ? how about 3- 5 -2

that fine, dont take my advice. I win with those formations. But you go ahead and choose your own. Good luck.

[Amane Ito]

Play the standard vanilla 352 with no arrows instead. It's the simplest counter.

If you look for a ridiculous hard counter keep the 352 but use asymmetric flank such as AML+MR and switch an ST back as AMC

[Kylos]

I used 4-51 v style against 4-5-1 flat and lost 3-1 away... So you could try 4-5-1 flat...