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    There's nothing wrong with 3 defs, narrow or wide, imo. But as Khris hints at the more critical a players role is the more fragile things are if they don't perform. When they do perform they can be immense. Balanced formations are more forgiving but can lack the punch in circumstances where specialists might work better. But roll the dice and anything is possible

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    if opponent plays only 1 ST or without winger lateral midfield, i will never scare to use 3 CD. LOL
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    OF COURSE, of course, of course... super pathetic

    Season 66 - Week 4-4thclfinal.gif

    nothing to comment... just usual... cant win ... ohh wait... im not token buyer... hmmm

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    ok forget it and gimme the new season
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabez Teh View Post
    ok forget it and gimme the new season
    Now that's one reply I can really agree with...

    When I saw what I was up against (opponent changed his formation in the hour before the match started) I tried to go 4 at the back but the mobile reception in the area I was working in was cr*p - I could see the match but couldn't interact with it, every time I did a formation change it lost connection

    ...and I'd been wanting to use that image all season...
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    3N defense is one of the strongest. I dropped 4 defenders long ago in favor of midfield control. The best defense is not letting the opponent to have chance created in the first place.
    3W defense however is rather aggressive instead of trying to defend, that can result in high score count...

    Opposing AML+AMR can be countered by regular ML+MR, DML+DMR or two DMCs. Pair DMC being one of the strongest counter against front hexagon (X-X-2n-2w-2)

    AML+AMR have a slight advantage if the only flank are defenders, I can't say 4 defenders is particularly good in this case.
    Front hexagon counters vanilla 4-4-2 slightly, noticable but not significant.

    4-defender is a valid counter against formation with 3 STs though.
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    I've been using the 3N back line for the past couple of seasons, and my 'goals against' column has been a lot better. Looking at it overall, however, the past two seasons I've been second in the League and previous to that I've been 1st twice and second using a back 4...

    If I could have got a decent DR this season I might have been using a back 4 instead of the 3N, but I picked up a couple of terrific DCs with 'Aerial Defender' SA so decided to keep with the 3N, and I must say it's worked 90% of the time. I have a 2 week holiday in the middle of next month so it looks like I'm going to go into consolidation mode (reduce the squad to the bare bones, get out of the cups ASAP and cruise/tank the League) next season and come back refreshed for the following season in July.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amane Ito View Post
    4-defender is a valid counter against formation with 3 STs though.
    have you ever tried 442 with 43N3 i don't think so.
    @Gabez Teh: i just said it efore your post. in fact 3N2W-2-1-2 is my favorite counter to ND for more than a years before i found 3N3N2W-2
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    My latest defense isn't 3W or 3N, as shown it is asymmetric DC+DC+DR. It isn't as aggressive as 3W nor as defensive as 3N.

    But yeah, it shares the same weakness of 3 defenders. 3 ST have a significant advantage against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tongly45 View Post
    have you ever tried 442 with 43N3 i don't think so.
    @Gabez Teh: i just said it efore your post. in fact 3N2W-2-1-2 is my favorite counter to ND for more than a years before i found 3N3N2W-2
    43N3 can work against vanila 442 because of midfield. Patch that problem and exploit the flank you can make a hard counter against 43N3 with four defenders. For a ridiculous hard counter against it, 4R-0-4L-AMR-ST(L). Yeah, this is too asymmetric.

    Those super effective counters against many common formations are asymmetric.

    What else did you think how I consistantly beat teams with one star average higher than mine...
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