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  • I'd like to play against players with same level.

    18 78.26%
  • The cup sistem is good how he is now.

    5 21.74%
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Zaharia Cristian Cup adversary (Admin please... 08-09-2015, 08:02 AM
nikolgiorgos I also mentioned this issue... 08-09-2015, 08:14 AM
Mirrowka Cup should be level based , I... 08-09-2015, 08:38 AM
mmunger Those are the same rules than... 08-09-2015, 08:46 AM
Zaharia Cristian I agree with you, but let me... 08-09-2015, 08:50 AM
mmunger Today, Bayern plays against... 08-09-2015, 10:06 AM
Zaharia Cristian That is real football, this... 08-09-2015, 12:23 PM
Steppenwolf Whatever they do about Cup... 08-09-2015, 09:16 AM
Zaharia Cristian I think cup sistem is based... 08-09-2015, 09:37 AM
Buffs Mad I often think I'd like a more... 08-09-2015, 10:45 AM
muskrat if you want to play people of... 08-09-2015, 01:50 PM
Zaharia Cristian I already play CL, but i want... 08-09-2015, 03:38 PM
muskrat cup isn't designed to be... 08-09-2015, 04:18 PM
Top11 Manager yea CL is same level already,... 08-09-2015, 07:45 PM
khris Thats why I always suggest do... 08-09-2015, 04:14 PM
Tactician It would be better if it was... 08-09-2015, 04:19 PM
cookizzz I like this idea, and support... 08-10-2015, 10:37 AM
Gert Funck Makes sense to me, as it is... 08-10-2015, 11:08 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Play just against same level... 08-09-2015, 08:25 PM
khris ....and play a entire year... 08-09-2015, 08:53 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Like I said, a CUP must be a... 08-09-2015, 08:54 PM
Zaharia Cristian As i said is not fair to play... 08-09-2015, 09:09 PM
Buffs Mad It is fair to be playing... 08-10-2015, 10:16 AM
nikolgiorgos Let's talk about few simple... 08-10-2015, 06:56 PM
Zaharia Cristian I tell you how it's this... 08-10-2015, 08:08 PM
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    Like I said, a CUP must be a CUP and it can't be based just on the same level if you want a competition closer to real life but you have a good point, playing each season against teams with 2,3 levels over you isn't good at all because is just not fair.
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    As i said is not fair to play against players with 2-3 levels more higher because the game see your players more week and his players more strong.

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    It is fair to be playing against 2-3 levels difference. It's not fair for active managers to always be playing against Managers with access to a higher Q TM every season.

    Again I'll say I like the idea of fixed ranges rather than the loose concept of fixed Q. However I don't like the idea that it should be predictable eg "next Season is my easier Cup" or "Cup is a no go for me next Season". That would just introduce new reasons to complain. I'd rather have my chance managed by luck than by design.

    In theory I'd like a fixed level range then all the teams thrown in the air and 127 chosen to be in my Cup. Whether I'd like it in practice if I got 3 bad ones in a row is another matter.

    Its a game designed around progression and all solutions will have unfairness built it.

    Other more wacky changes might include:

    using the exiting mechanic but weighting the Q calculation.

    Teams drawn from Lower levels would have a slightly higher Q (but less than +5Q) than mean or median level and those from higher levels have a slightly lower actual Q (but greater than -5Q). So........active higher level managers can have an advantage from the TM but only if they sign players and this alone is not enough to put them 'out of sight' of active lower levels.

    PS the above wacky suggestion is not the finished article, its just a prompt for what's possible

    Disclaimer: The ideas presented here are designed to convey the impression of thought, there is no guarantee that any thinking was actually done.
    Last edited by Buffs Mad; 08-10-2015 at 10:18 AM.
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    Let's talk about few simple things.
    The Cup I think it's the most easy trophy to win (I mean for an experience manager or an active member of the forum)

    * maybe there is an exception for higher lv teams, where there are few managers at their lv.
    The only thing you need is to finish (and start) the season with 14 low q players.
    maybe 2-3 0T academy players and the rest 3* players, oldies or free agents.

    The problem comes when you have a good team, with players you don't want to loose.
    The other thing is that the target, the holy grail of a (trophy hunter) manager is the treble.
    But why a manager must destroy his team or trying manipulating quality methods for that ?

    -So, why not to play in a competitive league (now with the new draw system)
    - in a competitive (as always) CH.L.
    - and in a Cup with q draw but with teams only from the level of the manager ?

    If win those three competition (and it's not easy) , the treble is yours.
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    I tell you how it's this game, if you want to win the championship you must to have a good team, if you want to draw in cup with teams on your level you must have a poor team. Conclusion make your team 2-3 stars for chance to win the cup.
    My opponent in cup.

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