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July Fourth New Cup Format - Token Buyers... 03-10-2013, 06:17 AM
spornybol agree cup is more like... 03-10-2013, 06:27 AM
July Fourth Cup is now an almost... 03-10-2013, 06:32 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin I think is opposite, it will... 03-10-2013, 06:39 AM
stevie duncan Token buyers will leave Top... 03-10-2013, 07:16 AM
July Fourth Thats exactly what I was... 03-10-2013, 07:20 AM
Adel Gamal If this continue like this... 03-10-2013, 06:45 AM
Ljepoje Cup competition isn´t... 03-10-2013, 06:53 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin You are losing a great trophy... 03-10-2013, 06:57 AM
Ljepoje Yeah, I know! But I´m playing... 03-10-2013, 08:00 AM
iamdjw Guys surely the fact that... 03-10-2013, 06:52 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin You will get more moneys if... 03-10-2013, 06:59 AM
Spyros True but not in preliminary... 03-10-2013, 02:02 PM
mountaincat Nordeus wants us to offload... 03-10-2013, 07:03 AM
July Fourth Thats what we have to do to... 03-10-2013, 07:08 AM
July Fourth I suggested Level 'Bands' for... 03-10-2013, 07:14 AM
dulipat this sucks for both token... 03-10-2013, 05:41 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin it sucks for some but for the... 03-10-2013, 05:43 PM
July Fourth Non-Token buyers that are low... 03-10-2013, 05:51 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Yes but to win the CUP you... 03-10-2013, 06:00 PM
Maxtax They couldnt win before thats... 03-11-2013, 03:34 PM
July Fourth Oh defo... It's like Nordeus... 03-10-2013, 05:53 PM
miahgame that's right if i bought... 03-10-2013, 06:04 PM
spornybol i found the cup was a great... 03-10-2013, 07:03 AM
b3ast At least you are token buyer... 03-10-2013, 07:22 AM
July Fourth Same here, But I probably... 03-10-2013, 07:24 AM
Joshiko if in the new format you... 03-10-2013, 07:26 AM
FC Barcelona So true. My first match is...... 03-10-2013, 07:23 AM
horsey people are never happy... 03-10-2013, 07:24 AM
b3ast All I want is to play against... 03-10-2013, 07:31 AM
Joshiko even in the old format, it's... 03-10-2013, 07:34 AM
b3ast Why it isn't possible? There... 03-10-2013, 07:47 AM
Joshiko of course there's more than... 03-10-2013, 07:50 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin And whats nice on that? I... 03-10-2013, 07:47 AM
July Fourth July Fourth place 2 players... 03-10-2013, 08:08 AM
Smoggie Carn't fault ya 03-10-2013, 08:11 AM
Le Monsieur Is it me or cup prizes go... 03-10-2013, 08:13 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin It went down becuase of the... 03-10-2013, 08:21 AM
spornybol i`v not been right though my... 03-10-2013, 08:19 AM
kullehh this new system sucks , good... 03-10-2013, 08:38 AM
Adel Gamal destroying?! not it's already... 03-10-2013, 08:49 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin There are not so many active... 03-10-2013, 08:51 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Why it's sucks? :) 03-10-2013, 08:51 AM
drug5 the new cup sucks. just check... 03-10-2013, 08:39 AM
Spyros I wake up this morning, I... 03-10-2013, 08:59 AM
Potemy I think I prefer the old... 03-10-2013, 09:10 AM
CarlTaut honestly i don't see the... 03-10-2013, 09:11 AM
July Fourth This isn't a CUP this is Top... 03-10-2013, 09:16 AM
CarlTaut Sure! Now is harder to win... 03-10-2013, 09:21 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Very nice, is true :P 03-10-2013, 09:28 AM
July Fourth If I wasn't a token buyer... 03-10-2013, 09:32 AM
CarlTaut July, no one force you to... 03-10-2013, 09:39 AM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Haha :)) why everyone is mad,... 03-10-2013, 09:20 AM
dv8r Basically you're put with... 03-10-2013, 09:34 AM
fmldotcom When the fk can I win a cup? ... 03-10-2013, 09:37 AM
CarlTaut Now if Nordeus will touch the... 03-10-2013, 09:41 AM
fmldotcom screw it, I didnt mind the... 03-10-2013, 09:51 AM
July Fourth How difficult will it be now... 03-10-2013, 09:57 AM
CarlTaut yes... but how easy was... 03-10-2013, 10:00 AM
July Fourth I had to beat a manager 3... 03-10-2013, 10:01 AM
CarlTaut Ok July.... but a lot of... 03-10-2013, 10:04 AM
July Fourth Yes... But I didn't buy... 03-10-2013, 11:41 AM
CarlTaut If the game is too easy... 03-10-2013, 10:01 AM
July Fourth Why don't they just take all... 03-10-2013, 10:04 AM
dv8r Actually I find one positive... 03-10-2013, 10:51 AM
July Fourth I very much doubt there is... 03-10-2013, 10:58 AM
reallaw They could have just changed... 03-10-2013, 11:30 AM
reallaw Higher levels just have to... 03-10-2013, 12:04 PM
July Fourth You see, Disadvantage Token... 03-10-2013, 12:25 PM
paoki023 i wonder what its better for... 03-10-2013, 12:23 PM
paoki023 i am quite sure since i... 03-10-2013, 12:40 PM
reallaw http://forum.topeleven.com/tut... 03-10-2013, 12:42 PM
Shevana I like the new Cup, because I... 03-10-2013, 01:07 PM
July Fourth If the bookies were doing... 03-10-2013, 01:09 PM
Lola.Milo some interesting Cup result ... 03-10-2013, 01:09 PM
Shevana Very interesting, I like this... 03-10-2013, 01:17 PM
July Fourth I tell you what I have seen a... 03-10-2013, 01:18 PM
Darth Sidious I feel this new cup format... 03-10-2013, 01:21 PM
ParshulXXL Damn it. I was busy last... 03-10-2013, 01:29 PM
ice87s Thats what I talking about, I... 03-10-2013, 02:50 PM
July Fourth When I heard about the new... 03-10-2013, 02:34 PM
ice87s Totally agreed...... No... 03-10-2013, 02:47 PM
cracicot I am happy that token buyers... 03-10-2013, 02:52 PM
ThePsycho I went ahead and submitted a... 03-10-2013, 02:54 PM
Jad Assaf This new system sucks! I... 03-10-2013, 02:54 PM
shwanko07 i disagree .. i love it ... 03-10-2013, 02:59 PM
July Fourth Its more even on quality to... 03-10-2013, 03:07 PM
Darth Sidious Well I see some truth in what... 03-10-2013, 03:10 PM
Nampion Chancy Yesterday when they draw the... 03-10-2013, 03:19 PM
shwanko07 that is what Nordeus are... 03-10-2013, 03:40 PM
shwanko07 is all about tokens at the... 03-10-2013, 03:25 PM
ice87s In the mean time, give more... 03-11-2013, 09:45 AM
ThePsycho Basically I'll stop buying... 03-10-2013, 03:01 PM
shwanko07 so you rather win cups by... 03-10-2013, 03:04 PM
reallaw Where's the point of donating... 03-10-2013, 03:14 PM
shwanko07 I think that will encourage... 03-10-2013, 03:30 PM
ThePsycho Agreed. 03-10-2013, 03:37 PM
ThePsycho That's the point, if everyone... 03-10-2013, 03:37 PM
shwanko07 WRONG .. bcz those who are... 03-10-2013, 03:42 PM
Broxburn Rovers Hopefully some teams with... 03-10-2013, 03:21 PM
Maxtax I have allready setup my... 03-10-2013, 03:23 PM
Kristya What about let's chill for... 03-10-2013, 03:25 PM
Jad Assaf Btw, this new system... 03-10-2013, 03:40 PM
Nampion Chancy Ok I figure it out, in my... 03-10-2013, 03:44 PM
July Fourth I bet you if we put it to a... 03-10-2013, 03:53 PM
Broxburn Rovers Lol people will still be... 03-10-2013, 04:01 PM
horsey of course they will.....its... 03-10-2013, 04:11 PM
reallaw League isn't a problem at all... 03-10-2013, 04:22 PM
shwanko07 not really ... my CL draw... 03-10-2013, 04:28 PM
July Fourth Basically you have a choice,... 03-10-2013, 04:28 PM
Adi 3224 new format same... 03-10-2013, 04:31 PM
shwanko07 sure the match engine need... 03-10-2013, 04:33 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Hard to say how you could get... 03-10-2013, 04:50 PM
reallaw How much did you donate for... 03-10-2013, 04:32 PM
ParshulXXL My take on the new Cup system... 03-10-2013, 04:32 PM
Adi oh so then if we talk about... 03-10-2013, 04:36 PM
shwanko07 no ... engine need to be... 03-10-2013, 04:48 PM
Adi they do work on it all the... 03-10-2013, 05:01 PM
reallaw Fact is 90 out of 100... 03-10-2013, 04:39 PM
shwanko07 let us see and wait, you are... 03-10-2013, 04:50 PM
Playsmartpeople well for me i can get treble... 03-10-2013, 04:50 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Same here, I think I have a... 03-10-2013, 05:30 PM
Spyros Not sure about other managers... 03-10-2013, 04:52 PM
Ljepoje Have the same amount and I´m... 03-10-2013, 05:00 PM
horsey even the videos get... 03-10-2013, 05:10 PM
July Fourth If I was to have a good shot... 03-10-2013, 05:18 PM
Ljepoje That's so true ... ;) 03-10-2013, 05:23 PM
Rapyer rofl someone is mad he cant... 03-10-2013, 06:05 PM
miahgame it's not my problem that u... 03-10-2013, 06:17 PM
July Fourth Precisely, We payed a premium... 03-10-2013, 06:18 PM
cracicot hmmmm, token buyers have... 03-10-2013, 06:28 PM
horsey Although i said earlier i... 03-10-2013, 06:33 PM
reallaw Non buyers have the advantage... 03-10-2013, 07:00 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Is not true, from so many... 03-10-2013, 07:02 PM
shwanko07 so CL is the same , league is... 03-10-2013, 07:31 PM
reallaw I have a second team where i... 03-10-2013, 07:03 PM
shwanko07 1- why you have a 2nd... 03-10-2013, 07:35 PM
reallaw 1- Why do you care einstein?... 03-10-2013, 07:37 PM
reallaw I've explained you three or... 03-10-2013, 07:34 PM
shwanko07 i spend 250 T last season... 03-10-2013, 07:36 PM
reallaw I bought them for all... 03-10-2013, 07:38 PM
shwanko07 and that is the point,... 03-10-2013, 07:42 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin So a better profit for them... 03-10-2013, 07:48 PM
horsey i refuse to buy scouted... 03-10-2013, 07:49 PM
July Fourth I may as well point this... 03-10-2013, 07:35 PM
reallaw It's because of you little... 03-10-2013, 07:36 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Nobody will close this game,... 03-10-2013, 07:38 PM
reallaw I don't think i know they... 03-10-2013, 07:40 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin If it will be to bet, they... 03-10-2013, 07:41 PM
July Fourth Nordeus will take note if... 03-10-2013, 07:42 PM
July Fourth It's the scout buyers is that... 03-10-2013, 07:39 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin If they want to win more... 03-10-2013, 07:41 PM
Rapyer someone is so mad they just... 03-10-2013, 10:18 PM
reallaw someone = talking about one... 03-11-2013, 05:22 AM
cracicot "their" could have been "her"... 03-11-2013, 08:59 AM
Kukilon However you look at it it's a... 03-10-2013, 07:51 PM
fmldotcom The way this is going I think... 03-10-2013, 09:26 PM
July Fourth I wonder if this will spring... 03-10-2013, 09:33 PM
July Fourth Thats why I waited until... 03-10-2013, 09:35 PM
fmldotcom What What??? Come again? I'm... 03-10-2013, 09:43 PM
dv8r It's not Easter yet ;) 03-10-2013, 09:50 PM
July Fourth It was about 4.50 am GMT when... 03-10-2013, 09:50 PM
Pojacanje I will have trophy this or... 03-10-2013, 09:31 PM
hullabaloo "Token Buyers will of used... 03-10-2013, 11:09 PM
July Fourth Thats probably just down to... 03-10-2013, 11:19 PM
Morgan O\'Bree Well for once i have to... 03-10-2013, 11:10 PM
July Fourth 15 seasons played, Number of... 03-10-2013, 11:23 PM
Morgan O\'Bree Mainly, how many points ahead... 03-11-2013, 12:16 AM
July Fourth Yes, but you don't buy tokens... 03-11-2013, 12:22 AM
fmldotcom I don't get why they set up... 03-11-2013, 12:48 AM
Morgan O\'Bree It's a chain reaction. Those... 03-11-2013, 01:00 AM
fmldotcom Ok it's like this. I buy... 03-11-2013, 03:00 AM
July Fourth It cost me 3,200 tokens to... 03-11-2013, 11:57 AM
fmldotcom yah, but why all my teams are... 03-11-2013, 12:12 PM
ice87s Thats the way they make money... 03-11-2013, 12:46 PM
Rubenito They make money from us from... 03-11-2013, 12:49 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin If you want to have a company... 03-11-2013, 12:49 PM
fmldotcom Does the amount of tokens... 03-11-2013, 12:50 PM
July Fourth Yes most likely, so to build... 03-11-2013, 12:58 PM
Gafaton lolwut, its good like that...... 03-11-2013, 03:31 AM
fmldotcom Just like Real Madrid is lame... 03-11-2013, 03:51 AM
Gafaton i said it ? lol. man.city is... 03-11-2013, 12:11 PM
fmldotcom What team don't want to have... 03-11-2013, 12:19 PM
Gafaton i just gave my opinion to the... 03-11-2013, 12:26 PM
ThePsycho If I wanted to play for fun,... 03-11-2013, 05:40 AM
Rapyer There is this thing called... 03-11-2013, 05:18 PM
paulbonnick0504 Im out the cup :( 03-11-2013, 11:58 AM
dv8r It's interesting because of... 03-11-2013, 12:14 PM
Darth Sidious Without token buyers, this... 03-11-2013, 12:22 PM
Rubenito It's like that: Those who... 03-11-2013, 12:33 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin Yes on general thats the... 03-11-2013, 12:36 PM
fmldotcom Oh...so before it was the... 03-11-2013, 12:37 PM
Rubenito I don't know any player so... 03-11-2013, 12:41 PM
PricopGeorgeCătălin I saw players who won CUP,... 03-11-2013, 12:50 PM
ice87s Yes, I can be a "BOSS" but... 03-11-2013, 12:54 PM
ice87s The reason we spent money... 03-11-2013, 12:52 PM
Rubenito No one forces you to pay:)))... 03-11-2013, 12:55 PM
July Fourth http://forum.topeleven.com/top... 03-11-2013, 12:59 PM
paulbonnick0504 I never never bought a token... 03-11-2013, 01:03 PM
Rubenito Your plan will be ruined when... 03-11-2013, 01:04 PM
cracicot Good luck with that. I was... 03-11-2013, 02:22 PM
Saintian I went from being the... 03-11-2013, 03:54 PM
Adi 33223323 better results... 03-11-2013, 04:17 PM
Chris Rath Wow, that is sh*t. It happens... 03-11-2013, 07:30 PM
Kukilon Rapyer do you contribute... 03-11-2013, 05:54 PM
Gafaton lol u r just paying to win,... 03-11-2013, 06:16 PM
Kukilon No it's because he has... 03-11-2013, 07:00 PM
July Fourth Why didn't they keep the old... 03-11-2013, 06:01 PM
Rapyer i contribute within my means.... 03-11-2013, 06:14 PM
Nicky I understand many people can... 03-11-2013, 06:20 PM
Gafaton that's why the cup is... 03-11-2013, 06:33 PM
July Fourth Guess what? I've won many... 03-11-2013, 07:22 PM
Chris Rath Mmh, the upper level players... 03-11-2013, 07:26 PM
Too Deadly Sounds like the new format is... 03-15-2013, 11:31 PM
July Fourth Yes. But some of us token... 03-15-2013, 11:34 PM
Too Deadly I don't recall mentioning... 03-16-2013, 12:24 AM
mountaincat its about time to buy some 3*... 03-30-2013, 02:22 AM
joeleyf Too Deadly, I am about to go... 03-30-2013, 02:56 AM
July Fourth Too bad you can't buy 1*... 03-30-2013, 03:03 AM
peppe88 the cup should be: all of the... 03-31-2013, 10:58 AM
miahgame WTF how any one here can't... 03-31-2013, 02:14 PM
July Fourth This is all it takes, one of... 03-31-2013, 02:23 PM
Ro Edu then in my case is better... 03-31-2013, 03:02 PM
reallaw Here's the problem. Don't... 03-31-2013, 03:28 PM
miahgame how the hell will u play with... 03-31-2013, 06:47 PM
CarlTaut If you put in the cup all... 03-31-2013, 05:11 PM
peppe88 I would divide the tournament... 03-31-2013, 06:30 PM
miahgame thats a great idea i'd... 03-31-2013, 06:54 PM
peppe88 max every 2 levels..I'm in... 03-31-2013, 07:07 PM
miahgame If one of the lvl 7 bought a... 03-31-2013, 07:12 PM
kullehh no matter how much strong you... 03-31-2013, 06:49 PM
ice87s yes, I really dont know why... 04-01-2013, 03:03 AM
ice87s i would say those ppp are... 04-01-2013, 03:06 AM
pinballgkh sorry if this has been... 04-03-2013, 10:02 PM
July Fourth Players do not lose... 04-03-2013, 10:22 PM
July Fourth SCREW THE CUP FORMAT.... ... 04-08-2013, 08:16 PM
gtmsnba13 Huh? Wow, I'm usually against... 04-08-2013, 08:48 PM
July Fourth Anyone active and higher... 04-08-2013, 09:12 PM
aiureah @ JulyFourth It's sad, same... 04-08-2013, 10:19 PM
July Fourth This is it... I spend the... 04-08-2013, 11:20 PM
seanmeg Could not agree more with... 04-08-2013, 10:23 PM
Wildinho Am level three & I was... 04-08-2013, 10:27 PM
aiureah @ wildinho You know why?... 04-08-2013, 10:34 PM
jey2208 imo, whatever cup system, the... 04-08-2013, 11:37 PM
demaskinos I totally agree with everyone... 04-09-2013, 11:16 AM
aiureah Maybe they want you to buy... 04-09-2013, 11:35 AM
ice87s Still ppl say new cup system... 04-09-2013, 11:48 AM
Apskio there are alot of hackers... 04-09-2013, 02:14 PM
magic3 no there isn't. There are... 04-09-2013, 02:26 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree View Post
    Well for once i have to disagree. I understand the situation you feel like you've finished in, but it'a a question of balance.

    An eye for an eye.

    Yes, you do spend money to improve over the average rate your team, resulting in having a squad with 5,10,15 points avg better than any other team in your league (apart samre tokens buyer parties). Yes, you do get disavantaged into cup now, and only into cup. Why is it not fair? Being a non buyer and having to league, CL, and cup fight teams 10-15 Q better might look unfair to them aswell.
    Keep in mind that low tokens buyers > few large buyers alwais on any game. All Nordeus did was balancing the competitions creating something where who buy tokens to be the best and be at Q X fights same qualities X.

    Ofc, still this isn't much of a jack of all trades. IE, i'm facing an opponent in Cup with my same lv (3) but a team with quality 36. Yesterday it was 33,5 , today was 36,4, tomorrow will probably be 40 by that time. His striker went from 36 to 40 in 12 hours. So should i say now New Cup format sucks cause puts me to people 15 points over me? On both sides are losses. And honetsly you can probably have some real thrill apart from keeping getting 26-0-0's every season. Loss is a part of growth :P
    15 seasons played, Number of seasons I have went 26-0-0 in the league in our history: 0. In our early days we werent any token buyers with claiming all our tokens from the videos and we kept getting the odd dodgy result and the game trolled me in a few CL finals before, recently being 10 quality ahead of every team in my league has still resulted in the few bad results recently but we have been unbeaten for 77 league games, last 3 seasons were 24-1-1 (lost 1st game because I left reserves in the squad from day before cup game), 25-1-0, 24-2-0.
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    Quote Originally Posted by July Fourth View Post
    15 seasons played, Number of seasons I have went 26-0-0 in the league in our history: 0. In our early days we werent any token buyers with claiming all our tokens from the videos and we kept getting the odd dodgy result and the game trolled me in a few CL finals before, recently being 10 quality ahead of every team in my league has still resulted in the few bad results recently but we have been unbeaten for 77 league games, last 3 seasons were 24-1-1 (lost 1st game because I left reserves in the squad from day before cup game), 25-1-0, 24-2-0.
    Mainly, how many points ahead each of these season you ended up winning the league? What were the last 3 results of your finals? (quarter, semi, final)? If the answer is likely more than 10-15 points, and more than 8-10 aggreagted goals, then the new format makes you "pay" your superior quality pairing you up with higher levels :[

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgan O'Bree View Post
    Mainly, how many points ahead each of these season you ended up winning the league? What were the last 3 results of your finals? (quarter, semi, final)? If the answer is likely more than 10-15 points, and more than 8-10 aggreagted goals, then the new format makes you "pay" your superior quality pairing you up with higher levels :[
    Yes, but you don't buy tokens to get better players from the scout or power train just to play teams that above you level wise on a regular basis, because we are playing L17-L18 clubs in the cup this season, It only costs them a dozen tokens to buy some players that can easily sink our team that we spent hundreds of tokens on scouts/PT etc, It doesn't make sense. Last 2 leagues I won by 25 points and the aggregate scorelines for me in semi-finals were 2 goals in my favour last season in both cup and cl semi, Cup final won 5-0, CL final won 5-1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by July Fourth View Post
    Yes, but you don't buy tokens to get better players from the scout or power train just to play teams that above you level wise on a regular basis, because we are playing L17-L18 clubs in the cup this season, It only costs them a dozen tokens to buy some players that can easily sink our team that we spent hundreds of tokens on scouts/PT etc, It doesn't make sense. Last 2 leagues I won by 25 points and the aggregate scorelines for me in semi-finals were 2 goals in my favour last season in both cup and cl semi, Cup final won 5-0, CL final won 5-1.
    I don't get why they set up token buyers with non token buyers....like all my acc are facin higher level teams. How come I don't get to face teams lower level with same quality?

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    Quote Originally Posted by July Fourth View Post
    Yes, but you don't buy tokens to get better players from the scout or power train just to play teams that above you level wise on a regular basis, because we are playing L17-L18 clubs in the cup this season, It only costs them a dozen tokens to buy some players that can easily sink our team that we spent hundreds of tokens on scouts/PT etc, It doesn't make sense. Last 2 leagues I won by 25 points and the aggregate scorelines for me in semi-finals were 2 goals in my favour last season in both cup and cl semi, Cup final won 5-0, CL final won 5-1.
    It's a chain reaction. Those teams who you say can easily acquire what you have to pay for will face the same issues if they plan to go for the best on their level too. They will get parried with even stronger levels and that up untill higher planes.