i guess some managers have no idea that first 10 tokens are for Nordeus... :((
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i guess some managers have no idea that first 10 tokens are for Nordeus... :((
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So happy :(
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I don't see that it's 'incredible!' that some cheapskates offer 0T for two of my best players...
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On the other hand, waiting sometimes has its rewards...
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Marinov (AMC/AML/AMR) has been a bit overshadowed by the arrival of a new left-midfielder, a replacement (AMC/AML/AMR) for him was procured from the TM for 1T, so off he went...
...and at least some managers try...
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Those two are regular 0T customers.
I 'm thinking to make a discount for them :p
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Somewhere someone asked the question "how many managers can see my 99% rated players?" Those players that appear on a negotiations list.
Well here's a thing.
All season Cloverfield has had a player who appeared on my negotiations list. He's had offers, probably zero tokens! But then this morning whilst passing the time in transfers I notice Cloverfields player is no longer on my list. Well done. Sold! But, no. When I look in Cloverfields squad the player is still there.
So. Now you see me. Now you don't.
Seems the game engine shuffles the players we can see in our lists.
yes, I wrote a comment here
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...tion-list.html
nordeus controls how many managers can see our players in the list every time.
That's why there are so many 0T offers, some from the same players.
Someone could ask why nordeus is "hidding" the players of the list ? They earn many tokens from a selling.
I believe because they don't want the sellers to have a big income from there.
Well what do you know. He's back on my negotiations list!
Not that I'm looking to buy, just trying to figure out who I can see when and why?
ok, the pic is interesting (:rolleyes:) but if you won't offer at least 5 tokens , you 'll get nothing
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maybe if she let the emblem drop down :p
I love this offer :)
One of my AC team received offer for his academy player. This 0T academy player I got last season, now he is 1* and offer comes from a lvl 5 manager. so player for him is 99%. I do have some more academy players 18/19/20 yo 1* n 2*, receiving 0T offer but I don't like to sell with 0T because I use those academy players to bring my 10% bonus every day, if I sell them then I have to buy higher age low lvl players from TE which is cost me at least 1T, so please don't bother to offer 0T.
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I asked a guy only 2 tokens, seriously 2. Just to try how willing this guys are to negotiate. Nope apparently just giving me 1 token for buying the player in the first place and 1 for bothering to train him is too much.
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I have got a fan too for the first time, offering 0t once a day already like 5-6 times. My view is, those people must have any seriosly disease, we shouldnt judge them too hard and just stay cool. Not a big deal IMO.
If I reject your offer for 0T, then either I don't want to sell him, or I want more for him. Offering the same price/tokens for him again and again will get you nowhere...
I know that feeling... [emoji19]
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As the season is getting near to end, it's time to sell those two nego list players.
I had them for 16-17 days but got only silly 0 or 1 T offers.
Sad for the game :(
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LOL thats a nice name, Nik, for seven tokens is yours.
Question: Why dont you sell them on 1st day of the next season? One of my negos didnt get sold this season (had only a 3t offer), so even keep him locked at 79% and only train.
The main problem with negotiations is the amount of tokens that goes to Nordeus. Many users might be offering what looks like 0T or 1T to you, but they are putting like 7-10T for that offer, which is already a decent amount for the buyer's or offering user's side. Sure some users can be annoying with their repeated 0T offers, but in some cases you can see that the user has increased his offer; you will see that the amount of cash has increased. On the owner's or seller's side, 0T-3T might not be much, even 5T, but 3-5T, when offered by user that wants the player is 3-5T + the absurd amount of tokens that go to Nordeus. So, don’t blame the users; blame Nordeus.
In the past, I got lots of 0T offers too, but I also got a few 1T offers and one even increased his bid to more tokens after I rejected his offer.
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I did not want to sell him before my team finished some important matches as there was no cover for the DC position in my team. This player, a token academy DC, was finally sold via negotiations later to another user. In the end, sold him turned out to be mistake as I struggled to find a DC that has some qualities I was looking for the following season while this DC had them (he needed only quality boosting by training; he even got a good rating for the only match he played). Also, despite buying other DCs, my team conceded a lot of goals, indicating that something was wrong at the back. So selling players via negotiations, even those that have lower quality can be a mistake at times, especially If the player has the potential to succeed at the club.
A Player Sold For 13T Via Negotiations
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I had only one player for DR, DMR and MR during a period in a season. During that season, I was put into a situation where I had to use a formation consisting of a DR and an MR. I was in the market for a DR as I wanted to move the player that was playing at DR to MR – the only position that he had when he was bought, so let’s say his natural position, but I could not get the type of player I wanted despite spending several hours watching that new auction market. I bought an MR, that too early in the morning (2-5 A.M) after having spent hours and hours watching the lists, but he did not play up to expectations at MR despite having the necessary attributes to be a very good MR (and DR and DMR too, and hence had the potential to become a DR/DMR/MR as my other player). Later, I saw a DR that had some of the qualities I was looking for. The player was bought as a fast training, 5-star 18 y.o DR for relatively cheap in terms of tokens given the inflated market. The initial plan was to use him at DR position that same season for some certain matches where I thought using the DR/DMR/MR player at MR would be better. But it did not go according to plan, and instead the DR was kept as a cover and also as a player for the future. The player started training for a new position – DMR. He completed his new position, and reached the 79% mark next season. I got a 13T negotiation offer for him; I accepted given that it was good business. But 13T for the seller is 13 plus the absurd amount of tokens asked by Nordeus, which could have been around 35T in total for the buyer to pay. That is a lot.
Although I think the nego system isnt as great, it is not an excuse to offer 0-1T many times in a row, it just shows the stupidity of the buyer, Im sorry. Blaming Nordeus can be a good sport, besides it.
I buy this way only players with low grey skills, I value those 99% players (if young) much higher than 116% scouts for 69T, but never spent more than 20T
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because I end the season with 14 players (7 high q and seven low q, 1-2*) for the next drawQuote:
Question: Why dont you sell them on 1st day of the next season?
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If someone at lv30 doesn't know how negotiations work, what can I say - lolQuote:
Wait... the potential buyer could think that the 7 tokens are those that are required to make the bid, that is the 7 tokens that goes to Nordeus.
I also changed the name to declare that I want to sell this player and I 'm active (cause nego don't work even if you want to buy a player. I 've made about 20-30 offers so far in my career and got only one response/player ).
negotiations don't work good, this is known.
I have made a pack of suggestions here
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...ork-again.html
but I don't believe anything will change
So today I get an 8 token offer. Yeah! Associations works!
No. The offer is for a 119% player. Boo.
So the bidder is a level higher than me. We've in the same cup and champions league draws over the last few seasons.
I know he's a level higher than me, he knows I'm a level lower than him, he knows that I know that he knows.
So I do him the favour of returning him his tokens straight away. Thanks, but no thanks.
Straight back at me with 13 tokens. Ok. He's serious, but still, no thanks.
Again straight back to me with 20 tokens! Cheers mate, but really, I don't want to sell.
Aaaaaand yet again, a fourth offer inside 2 minutes. But 20 tokens again.
Sorry mate but I wouldn't accept 20 tokens half a minute ago so what do you think will have changed? My player is trained down until the morning so you can now wait for your tokens back.
He would have been paying around 50 tokens to buy my player. 21 years old, 119%. This is almost scout list/recommended players territory. And this is where negotiations breaks down. Any offer after 25ish becomes questionable for the buyer as the number of tokens spent is on a par with scout list/ recommended players. Whilst what could I have bought to replace this player with the 20 tokens I'd have received?
Once upon a time negotiations worked fine for me, but nowadays it's just another token grab from Nordeus. 50%+ opening cut is just too much.
You know, at the end of the season sometimes I sold 119% players (not in nego, in the simple tm, to lower my quality) but at the beginning of the season ??
to buy what with those 20 token, a simple 95% player ?
Lol
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As I did gain a lot of experience selling my players on negotiations, I thought I share my thoughts here in this thread.
So far I sold around 50-60 players through negotiations since the new transfer market. How? Because I always swap these 55-59% 3 star players and 75%-79% upon to the age of 20 (older only if 3 positions or SA) for quick profit.
It's a really good business for me and I provide other players with good young players, which otherwise would just be deleted through the market. :D
I always have 4-6 of such players in my squad, which also boosts my training level as well.
I try to don't waste to much time waiting for a good offer. If I get 6 or 7 tokens for a really good 3* player, maybe 18 with SA, its fine because generally I only spent 1T on him and by selling him, I make space to do the procedure again with another player.
So my advice is to not be too greedy. If you sell 4 players for 4T profit each in 2 days its better than waiting a long time for a 16T offer on a phenomenal player.
This season I sold so far:
ST AML AMR 19 years old without SA for 10 tokens
DC 23 years old without SA for 5 tokens
ST AML 19 years old without SA for 6 tokens
DL 19 years old with defensive wall for 7 tokens
DL 29 years old with defensive wall for 3 tokens (was one of my players rotating out)
DR DMR MR 23 years old without SA for 3 tokens (also one of my players rotating out of the team)
So as I bought all of these (except for my own former players) for 1T we're looking at 24T profit in 4 days. At the start of the season it's a lot easier though to get even 5-6 tokens for mediocre players. So for example the DC 23 years old.
Again, the players you buy should ideally be younger than 21.
Also you have to look for certain positions that are easier to sell than others. I've made the following experience:
GK - Not recommended, sells poorly
Defenders - Double or triple position sells really good. Single position DC is solid, DL and DR only recommended with SA. DC/DMC combination is okay.
Midfielders - Stay away from single positions except MC. AML/AMC and so on sell really quick. Also things like DMR/MR/AMR don't sell too good.
ST - Sell really good, especially when they have any SA or are ST/AML and so on.
I hope this helped you a bit and I didn't forget important things. Also I'm quite far in the game on level 41. So all players cost the same and I have plenty of money to be spent. And the managers in the levels below me are also quite eager, which means, they probably spend more tokens than players in level 1-20.
interesting tips but I have my regular 0 token customers :p
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Now they're coming in pairs...
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Had an offer for a player I was keeping for negotiations, so I want to sell him.
0T! So I set a nice 2T release price, hoping that the prospective buyer might bite.
No such luck, as the time ran out this morning. Within minutes...
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Selling price set again, let's see if he gets a clue...
Sold some more players during the last week:
MC 18 years old without SA for 5 tokens (youth player)
DR 19 years old with corner specialist for 7 tokens
DC 19 years old with defensive wall for 5 tokens
ST AMC 18 years old without SA for 7 tokens
AMC AML 18 years old with shadow striker for 7 tokens
Makes 51T profit this season so far... But it gets harder and harder during the season to get decent offers... Also got some players left to sell.
And trained 2 players to far and they got their next star. Classic... What a waste. :D *facepalm*
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I've made ~70 tokens profit from negotiations,i was lucky to find many good players at auctions in the first days of the seasons,i sell from 3tokens to 11 tokens,but after the 1st week of the season negotiations are dead,on monday,i found this 18 yo,3 positions and fk sa,i keep gettig offers of max 3 tokens...
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I have 5 hours to decide to whom i'm gonna sell this player,i hope i'm not gonna miss the deadline lol
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Niko. Why not try the Madflo name change tactic?