Need Confirmation!

[Ahlony Wong]

Haha, i used to hate this way too, i love my squad so much that i dont want to sell any of them at the end of the season.
But it's the best way to win Cup, or you can only bet on your luck, because the element of surprise is too BIG in cup matches, a team with 5Q higher, counter formation, manager presence would still lose.
On the other hand, if you have too many "valuable" players in your squad (young, 6-7 stars, have SAs), you cant follow this strategy, no one wants to sell those players!
But i suggest, we shouldn't build a team with 100% fast trainer, should only use them on important positions: AMR/AML/MC/DL/DC, other positions we should use regular players bought from market, use them for 1 season, then sell them. They are so called "the expendables"

5Q higher? then you never taste what is the CUP with high level....
LV7 against LV11...Q62.1 all 7 star is my first team in LV7 (last season)...against LV11...Q78~ fair enough? in LV7...even if i use 1800+ token for person train for only 1 player... my highest Q can get right away is Q74~ fair enough for this cheating concept? this have to be changed! draw for the top 14 players for whole season quality, or go it for just random in +-2 LV is ok, but never in last day quality! (in the real world, can any team do this cheat drawing?? NO! )

[legendqueen]

5Q higher? then you never taste what is the CUP with high level....
LV7 against LV11...Q62.1 all 7 star is my first team in LV7 (last season)...against LV11...Q78~ fair enough? in LV7...even if i use 1800+ token for person train for only 1 player... my highest Q can get right away is Q74~ fair enough for this cheating concept? this have to be changed! draw for the top 14 players for whole season quality, or go it for just random in +-2 LV is ok, but never in last day quality! (in the real world, can any team do this cheat drawing?? NO! )

There are 2 possibilities: One, Your team is filled with 7 stars, 8 stars players, then you are placed into Cup Table with lv 11 teams. Two, those level 11 managers have learned that to win Cup, we should sell our strong players at the end of the season, so their Top 14's quality is dropped to your number, so here we go, 7 vs 11.

Yes, i know this is cheating, but it costs something too.

- 1. Lower level Cup gives you less money, so a team which plays at low Cup level will gain much less money than a level 7 team which plays at level 11 Cup. We must confest Cup gives much more money than CL and League competions.
- 2. Selling your squad makes it harder for you to build up new squad at the start of new season, and also brings enormous difficulty to build up a long-term team filled with youngsters/fast trainer (because we have to sell them at the last days)

But what if we change this? Like you say, the Cup draw doesnt depend on team quality anymore, so if there is a token-buyer, he buys a lot of young players and power trains them to superstar quality, then he keeps winning Triple Crown from season to season, is it fun to play anymore ? From player perspective, it will make the game too boring if you are spender. From Game developer's perspective, their income will go less because after building a strong team in one season, a spender can freely win everything in the next 5 seasons without any big investment.

[Ahlony Wong]

There are 2 possibilities: One, Your team is filled with 7 stars, 8 stars players, then you are placed into Cup Table with lv 11 teams. Two, those level 11 managers have learned that to win Cup, we should sell our strong players at the end of the season, so their Top 14's quality is dropped to your number, so here we go, 7 vs 11.

Yes, i know this is cheating, but it costs something too.

- 1. Lower level Cup gives you less money, so a team which plays at low Cup level will gain much less money than a level 7 team which plays at level 11 Cup. We must confest Cup gives much more money than CL and League competions.
- 2. Selling your squad makes it harder for you to build up new squad at the start of new season, and also brings enormous difficulty to build up a long-term team filled with youngsters/fast trainer (because we have to sell them at the last days)

But what if we change this? Like you say, the Cup draw doesnt depend on team quality anymore, so if there is a token-buyer, he buys a lot of young players and power trains them to superstar quality, then he keeps winning Triple Crown from season to season, is it fun to play anymore ? From player perspective, it will make the game too boring if you are spender. From Game developer's perspective, their income will go less because after building a strong team in one season, a spender can freely win everything in the next 5 seasons without any big investment.

well... what i mean is the top 14 player overall quality for the whole season, which mean if one is a token-buyer and super star quality... he is still facing strong team in high level, but his can prevent the "last day drop quality"... which cheating the draw for an unfair CUP

this mean ...every day...the system recorded the average quality of top 14 players in the team~ add up those 28 days and then divided by 28~ then this come out the "team quality" and use this to draw the CUP~ instead of the last day quality~

[t11_fan]

Some guys already use this strategy in the cup, it is long term strategy. The best way to decrease avQ is to keep few (at least 4) 0T academy players in team (as reserves). Instead of improving them by adding SP to skills, you should train special ability or new position for that player to spend SP. That is better than saving skill points because you could auto add them by accident. More promotions you get, more influence would they take to the stars average.
2 seasons ago I've faced such opponent in the cup (1 level above me), his 1st team had 7* players and 1* players (according to my level). He lost the cup finals against team which had 9* players and 1* players, but whose avQ was equal as mine.
It is unfair strategy, but the cup is unfair competition by default, so...

[HoofDaddy]

Ahlony is just a token buyer hunting trebles, don't mind him, he still thinks his whole squad has to be 7* to get it.

[Ahlony Wong]

Ahlony is just a token buyer hunting trebles, don't mind him, he still thinks his whole squad has to be 7* to get it.

you know what, i never spend 1 cent, but i still have 7* player in my first 11 squad...so,what?

[HoofDaddy]

sorry, pack farmer then

[Bunzo]

@Ponzu
Did you ever think he was a level 15 manager that has taken over a lower level team ? If he was "Tanking" every season how would his manager level rise ?
Because if you check you´ll find he has a level 6 team(same as yourself) even though he´s a level 15 manager

[ponzu]

@Ponzu
Did you ever think he was a level 15 manager that has taken over a lower level team ? If he was "Tanking" every season how would his manager level rise ?
Because if you check you´ll find he has a level 6 team(same as yourself) even though he´s a level 15 manager

I did eventually, and posted as much. The distinction between a manager level and team level was unknown to me and still is not clear. You say "if you check", but the phone app only shows one level (and looks like it's the manager level). I will poke around the browser app to see if team levels are listed. Or is team level something that is implicit in their avQ?

So manager level has no impact on draws, correct?

Manager level goes up by 1 if manager gets into top 4 of the league? That is my assumption based on my past experience and no one has told me differently.

Team level is based on... what?

Cup draw is based on the avQ of the top 14 player?

League and CL draw is based on the team level? (which is based on what? see question above)

Did I get any of this right?

[legendqueen]

well... what i mean is the top 14 player overall quality for the whole season, which mean if one is a token-buyer and super star quality... he is still facing strong team in high level, but his can prevent the "last day drop quality"... which cheating the draw for an unfair CUP

this mean ...every day...the system recorded the average quality of top 14 players in the team~ add up those 28 days and then divided by 28~ then this come out the "team quality" and use this to draw the CUP~ instead of the last day quality~

Good idea, can prevent the "cheat".
But the it will be still hard for you to win Cup's tittle right? Because ultimately you are still matched up with equal teams.
Moreover, i dont think Nordeus's gonna do anything about this selling-at-the-last-days option, why? Because this way managers will spend more tokens at the beginning of new season, which is good for Nordeus. Think about it, when sell half of your team and rebuild it for new season, it will cost you a lot of tokens to bid in auction market and/or buying from scout.

I did eventually, and posted as much. The distinction between a manager level and team level was unknown to me and still is not clear. You say "if you check", but the phone app only shows one level (and looks like it's the manager level). I will poke around the browser app to see if team levels are listed. Or is team level something that is implicit in their avQ?

So manager level has no impact on draws, correct?

Manager level goes up by 1 if manager gets into top 4 of the league? That is my assumption based on my past experience and no one has told me differently.

Team level is based on... what?

Cup draw is based on the avQ of the top 14 player?

League and CL draw is based on the team level? (which is based on what? see question above)

Did I get any of this right?

Team level = Manager level. Isn't it obvious?