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    How do you pick CK, FK, PK?

    Has the impact of certain skills on successful execution of CK, PK and FK been discussed and agreed upon, or does every manager make their own assumption?

    I have no success with CK and FK. I did when I was at a lower level and my DC/DMC Busquets with FK specialist SA scored a lot. With him being a sophomore holdover, his relative rating has fallen off (he is at 93% on a team led by and playing against 110% players) and he misses more often than not, so he got relegated in the FK taking order. Not that others score much.

    Nor do I see many goals scored from CK. Maybe about 20%. What percentage would you consider satisfactory?

    I can't complain about PKs. I am not awarded that many and score most just as one would expect.

    I know some suggest testing many players on CK and FK, but I have a problem with that.

    One, I don't believe Nordeus would program a player to be better or worse at CK and FK. If a player appears to be that way, it is either due to his skills or coincidence/luck.

    Two, I don't get that many chances to have a good sample size. What would it mean if Player A took a CK an a goal was not scored? That I have to give him 4 more chances to see if he beats the 20% average? Or that I should replace him and risk missing out on a 50% CK assister? In the past, when we played friendlies, perhaps in midseason it was possible to test enough players. But now that everything goes into training and this elusive 10% bonus, it's unrealistic (thanks a lot, Nordeus!)

    I would much rather someone tell me that it has been proven (or universally agreed) that skill A (crossing?) is best for CK and skill B (shooting or finishing?) is best for FK.

    And how much bonus do you think the FK specialist SA gives my 93-percenter? Enough to keep him at the top of the rotation?

    P.S. My #1 FK taker with 114% Shooting and 120% finishing just missed two in the last game. Once he was thwarted by the Defensive Wall SA and once put it over the bar.
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    P.S. And seeing as I did not ask enough questions

    What is the difference for picking shooters/corner kickers from left and right? Do you look at the player's footedness? I am sure it's fun to micromanage it like that, but does it make a difference? In T11, I mean. Or even in real life soccer. Educate me.
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    I tried the left foot left corner visa versa thing. I noticed no difference at all. In fact, I put a left footer to take right side free kick and it said he was uncomfortable taking it on his weaker foot so I still find it confusing.

    I do know this. Some players are better than others and differences or similarity in skill points don't make that much difference. I do believe some players in certain positions are better than others.

    I have 2 right footed centre mid free kick takers who are lethal, both have double figures and I only play one at a time. I only have 1 corner taker who is my AMR/ST right footed striker who takes from both sides and he has over 25 assists.

    I wouldn't find the set piece takers from defensive player, I would keep trying attackers. You will have to try a lot of friendlies against weaker sides and keep an eye out on how many set pieces you have and how many he converts. If he has an average performances and misses 5 free kicks, he's not the one.

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    I use the players with those SAs in the specialist kicking lists. If I haven't enough then I fill with the other SAs, I've had quite successful free-kick takers who have the Penalty kick SA, and Corner kickers who have Free-kick SA. Where there are left/right options (Free/Corner kicks) I use the position on field as a guide to the column to put them in, not which foot they prefer. If they are a centre-field position (eg. MC) then they go in both columns. If they start missing out then I put the player concerned to the bottom of the column and shuffle the rest up to give another player a go.
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    First of all, I don't give to much attention to sa of the players.
    For free kicks, I choose the best attacker of the team and set him for both sides (foot is cosmetic).
    This is the F-K specialist for my team TIGRAN. A scout list player I bought.
    I gave him the F-K so to score more, get more MoM and extra sp, so to keep him for some more seasons.
    he is very good and most of his goals are from F-K (also has many assists, which also gives MoM titles)
    He has high skills so can beat every oppo GK (even if as scout-list player had them almost equal in every category).
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    This is m F-K from my other team , NIK. He is my best attacker and successful F-K specialist too.
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    This is another player who hasn't the talent as F-K or ST too. As the season ends, he 's packing
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    For penalties I also have the same players. Only if someone is in a bad form, I remove him.

    For corners, I use my MCs.
    I don't trust my defenders as C-S (but I know some cases with talents).
    I prefer to have my attackers near the goal post, so remain my two MCs.
    I set one from the left side and the other from the other side and I observe who 's better. Then if someone is better I choose him for both sides.
    I haven't found so far someone really good to that. Just sometimes happening one C-S to have two assists in one game (and after that, none in the next 5 games - lol).
    But it's rare for every one. When I see oppo players in top 5 assists, I can't find someone unique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    First of all, I don't give to much attention to sa of the players.

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    FK and CK work good for my player

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    CK and FK...is a must..... like yesterday...league i was facing the position 3...and i am only 1 pt leading the position 2....so...if i need to win the league... i am better to win all the rest of the match...

    yesterday...i score twice at 30min already...and thinking well....i got him.... then i sub my ST....after that....the opposite pull one back...at 63min... still i was winning 2:1.... and at 77min...my DMC got two yellow! (that is the 5 red i got in two days...never happen before...).... and at 83min.... the opposite score... (that is my AMR (the one has FK) get a yellow....and the opposite use that chance to get 2:2....it looks like i was going to lose 2 pt...and that may be the way i will lose the title........and at 89min.... the time i have a FK and the surprise time came.... my AMR (the one got yellow card one)...he score with his FK skill.... and then 90 min.... match ended @.@ he saves the 2 pt and made me still in the title... so....FK is a must...


    and i usually have two FK...and the funny thing i see is.... if your #1 FK you assign in the field but he is not going to kick the FK....100% of the time...he score...
    what i saw is that he is in the wall....and the one kick your will hit on the wall...and then...the one has the FK skill score it ~~ i saw that 100% of the time he is going to score that....that is better than he go to kick the FK~LOL

    compare to FK and CK~~~ PK is the useless....LOL i had one before.... miss 9/10 PK~LOL that is what make him PK specialist ~
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlony Wong View Post
    compare to FK and CK~~~ PK is the useless....LOL i had one before.... miss 9/10 PK~LOL that is what make him PK specialist ~
    My PK taker never miss

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    I normally go for sa then who has best crossing stats although with fk best shooting stats is good
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