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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    No, it is very unlikely that he works for Nordeus. Your suggestion concerning 'penalties' is not appropriate, but he misunderstood what I said.
    Top eleven put rules for this game , people who playing againts the rules , should be punished somehow , ...logical , that's it.
    simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph P Brenner View Post
    Top eleven put rules for this game , people who playing againts the rules , should be punished somehow , ...logical , that's it.
    simple as that.
    But it's not against the rules that Nordeus have laid down. Nordeus allows managers to set up teams and then not attend. Nordeus allows managers to set up team formations how they wish (as managers in real life teams are allowed to do). Nordeus sets the times of the matches and then allows the home manager to change the match time if he wishes/has to.

    Why should managers get punished for not attending matches if work or other RL events (like sleep) prevent them from doing so? If they don't attend, they don't get a possession bonus, or the opportunity to change the team if the match is going away from them, and that in itself should be sufficient punishment most of the time.

    Why should managers be punished (further) for playing 'illegal formations' when the match engine does that perfectly well itself? You don't see the referee at Chelsea v Arsenal stop the match because Arsene Wenger had lined up all his players on the right wing and say 'you can't do that, two penalties to Chelsea'...

    Why should we go through the task of setting up our match times when we have the facility for changing (home) match times if we want to? The EPL managers don't get a sheet saying here's your fixtures for the season, when do you want to play them?

    Most of what you are saying in your initial diatribe is just a rant against perceived injustice. I have two teams, one in it's 34th season, the other in its 11th season. They've played upwards of 1400 matches in that time, and the situation you describe (0-0 against bottom place) (or worse, a defeat) has happened about a dozen times in all those matches.

    For the rest of it, try the 'Suggestions' forum.

    It's called football, and it happens in RL as well. You just have to ride with the knock, post in the Vent thread*, and get on with the next match.

    Or as the anonymous learned philosopher once said, "**** happens."


    * http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...hread-3-a.html
    Last edited by talisman; 04-22-2016 at 12:38 PM.
    Any formation or tactics advice given is based purely on experience with my teams...

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    Top Eleven Formation - Illegal formations.

    While there are many possible formations in Top 11, not all of them are valid. This is what it’s commonly refereed as “illegal formations”. The exact rules and consequences aren't publicly known, but it’s generally accepted that if your formation is illegal, you’ll be penalised with a heavy loss of ball possession. And while it’s possible to win with one of said formations, it’s not a common occurrence.

    In order for a formation to be legal it must have:

    -At least 3 defenders.
    -At least 1 striker.
    -At least a player in each flank.
    -A goalkeeper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph P Brenner View Post
    Top Eleven Formation - Illegal formations.

    While there are many possible formations in Top 11, not all of them are valid. This is what it’s commonly refereed as “illegal formations”. The exact rules and consequences aren't publicly known, but it’s generally accepted that if your formation is illegal, you’ll be penalised with a heavy loss of ball possession. And while it’s possible to win with one of said formations, it’s not a common occurrence.

    In order for a formation to be legal it must have:

    -At least 3 defenders.
    -At least 1 striker.
    -At least a player in each flank.
    -A goalkeeper.
    All of those scenarios had previously attracted an automatic 20% possession for the infracting team, but all that went out at least 9 months ago (someone with a better memory than me will know exactly when). Now, you can do what you like, except play a goalkeeper in an on-field position, ie not in goal (which is the only situation you didn't mention) - that is the only circumstance under which a 20% possession penalty is applied nowadays. There are lesser penalties for setting a player out of position, with two grades of possession deduction, detectable in the formation screen - either a red or yellow triangle, the former attracting the higher penalty.

    So you can set a formation like GK/DL-DR/DML-DMR/ML-MR/AML-AMR/ST-ST without penalty, as long as the players concerned are eligible to play in the positions set for them. All the opponent player then needs to do is set 3DC-DMC-3MC-AMC-2ST (itself a previously 'illegal' formation) and play through the middle...

    ...and before you ask, yes I did set the narrow formation and won 5-0 with a team -2.1Q.
    Last edited by talisman; 04-22-2016 at 12:49 PM.
    Any formation or tactics advice given is based purely on experience with my teams...

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    By the way, Ahlony Wong, no offence meant to you, and I have nothing against you. The matter simply went so far due to misunderstandings. I hope that you will have a look again to what I requested to you.
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