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    Ok, someone could say
    wth, is this a managerial game or a slot machine ?

    Well yes, the roll dice has a big role in TE. Bigger than we would like to be.
    But still we can try to understand and manage in some part also the role of luck.
    (Khris also have spot that trying some different method in another thread).

    What I could do if for example in my asso game won and have my GK motm ?
    hmm, maybe using my sub GK even if he has lower quality
    or playing the game in auto/watching from another account I have
    or playing a couple of friendlies with PARTIZAN (via associations) so to reset some counter or to confuse the game engine.
    (this tip I gave to a friend and it worked in his final).
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    Some times it's scripted but you must find a way to read the script and change it.
    for example - let's continue with my previous story
    (I added the recent days in the previous schedule)

    - Yesterday I played vs may main competitor in the League. tough game, I won 0-2
    - Then someone (I don't know) arranged a friendly through asso
    - I played a league game vs an easy team without watching and won 10-0 with a great performance (good roll-dive, luck)
    - After that I had an asso game so there was something like a reset in my previous good roll-dice/ performance
    - And had again a great game in my CL final.
    Ok, I was 120% and opponent 95% but still this score 7-0, is too much - specially vs a present manager.

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    I had a CL final today and before the game I was 99% sure that I will win (I wrote that in the Greek forum).
    Why ?
    Because the roll dice (the waveform of post #1) would favor me.
    I had +10% quality from my oppo, PARTIZAN.
    PARTIZAN won in semi-finals a team with quality same as mine. Two wins.
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    But in the send leg, his GK was the man of the match.
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    And today, I had a game in FA where my oppo won and his GK was the motm.
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    So in today's final, even if I conceded an early goal and my players (specially the defenders) started with terrible rates, I scored 3.
    (so I risked a sub to get the green - and concede a goal at last min ).
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    Oppo GK had a very bad rate this time (0 saves, 75% s.e. for me)
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    * he must have bigger avg rate than my players
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    I had a CL final today and before the game I was 99% sure that I will win (I wrote that in the Greek forum).
    Why ?
    Because the roll dice (the waveform of post #1) would favor me.
    I had +10% quality from my oppo, PARTIZAN.
    PARTIZAN won in semi-finals a team with quality same as mine. Two wins.
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    But in the send leg, his GK was the man of the match.
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    And today, I had a game in FA where my oppo won and his GK was the motm.
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    So in today's final, even if I conceded an early goal and my players (specially the defenders) started with terrible rates, I scored 3.
    (so I risked a sub to get the green - and concede a goal at last min ).
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    Oppo GK had a very bad rate this time (o saves, 75% s.e. for me)
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    Congrats Nik, next time i need to send you my opponents form and previous matchups for your predictions. Haha kidding, i know you are a busy man. But are you not affected by the wave, i assume you were winning all the way as well? or because of your higher quality, the wave form affects him more having beaten someone of similar quality to you?
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    A +- 10% quality difference is meaningless (and you can see that when he won two times his oppo in semi-finals).
    It's that the waveform, found his GK in the lower point and my GK was away from that.


    next time i need to send you my opponents form and previous matchups for your predictions.
    well, all those above is just food for thought, but I have enough for my team
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    A +- 10% quality difference is meaningless (and you can see that when he won two times his oppo in semi-finals).
    It's that the waveform, found his GK in the lower point and my GK was away from that.



    well, all those above is just food for thought, but I have enough for my team
    You got me curious. Am gonna check for GK MOM and patterns in my cup and CL. I assume this waveform applies to all players but the GK is one position that will make a real difference in the match?

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    As I said in many other posts, it's the GK who 's expressing the role dice of the game . Not the other positions.
    It's the alibi of the "Just wasn't to be" effect
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    Thanks for your analysis. But if you can predict the form of your GK, it should not be a role dice.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    As I said in many other posts, it's the GK who 's expressing the role dice of the game . Not the other positions.
    It's the alibi of the "Just wasn't to be" effect

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    No, it's not about the form of the GK.
    The GK himself is the roll dice.

    Saying this
    maybe using my sub GK even if he has lower quality
    I mean to tweak more the dice, change the flow. Not about the form.
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    Ok. That makes sense to me. Thank you.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    No, it's not about the form of the GK.
    The GK himself is the roll dice.

    Saying this
    I mean to tweak more the dice, change the flow. Not about the form.
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