[9th of May] - New version: Bug fixes and improvements

[Tactician]

The game is being simulated in the server, not in the client (otherwise 2 managers would see different outcomes for the same match). Also, a game can't be postponed no matter what, as they have a fixed schedule time that can't be altered after the match has already started. When the server is stopped for any reason, this match will need to be simulated (on the server side) therefore there can be inconsistencies between what you say in your device with what finally happened.

Regarding your second question: it is not random. When a user joins a match, it is always positive for the team who he supports (specially if it's the manager, as the bonus is bigger). This doesn't mean this team will be able to "see" this positive effect, because joining a match gives that team slightly more chances to win, but you can still lose. And by coincidence, you could receive a goal shortly afterwards of joining your match. That doesn't mean it happened "because" you joined, as it would have happened anyway if you hadn't. But maybe you would have received 2 goals instead of 1.

Sometimes the switch in terms of the course of the match seems to be random, non-appropriate or strange. The additional possession might be added and also be evident on the statistics box, but still the change in terms of the course (where the 'pressure' has been switched, and what is going to happen next as showed by the next simulated part) is non-appropriate sometimes. It could be coincidences but it could be due to one or several flaws in the simulation engine too. The duration of a match is too short to make proper adjustments on time. Even the advices of the assistant manager seem to be late, and by the time the manager makes the advised changes, those particular changes might no longer be appropriate or the last part of the match has already been simulated.

[Teda]

Hello Moi,

Can I ask if my question could be answered? I am asking if Nordeus made some adjustments in this update to reduce the packs we can get on daily basis?

You can see a lot of managers have the same observation but no one got an answer yet.

Thanks.

[Make Way 4 The Keg]

Hello Moi,

Can I ask if my question could be answered? I am asking if Nordeus made some adjustments in this update to reduce the packs we can get on daily basis?

You can see a lot of managers have the same observation but no one got an answer yet.

Thanks.

Moi,

The dramatic reduction in opportunities for all packs is ridiculous. I was able to get 10 rests total last night when the server flipped to a new day. I have not been able to get any of the other packs at all since the update. Further, that is the only time of day I could get anything. Should I only check in once a day for these? Needless to say, this diminishes my interest in the game greatly. From what I am reading, I am not the only one wanting to see this fixed.

I would think the sponsors paying you for these ads expect to have their videos viewed after all.

[shaidar74]

Moi,

The dramatic reduction in opportunities for all packs is ridiculous. I was able to get 10 rests total last night when the server flipped to a new day. I have not been able to get any of the other packs at all since the update. Further, that is the only time of day I could get anything. Should I only check in once a day for these? Needless to say, this diminishes my interest in the game greatly. From what I am reading, I am not the only one wanting to see this fixed.

I would think the sponsors paying you for these ads expect to have their videos viewed after all.

The silence on this issue is deafening. The admin has responded to other questions and issues but not this one. I wonder why.

I have only played this game for 6 months or so and have enjoyed it and i have purchased several parcels of tokens. However i am heavily reliant on the 'free' rest/green packs in particular after the last major update in regards to the training. I would on average use between 40 to 60 rest/green packs a day depending on how many matches and training sessions i would have. Since this most recent update i think i have only got around 10 rest packs from watching videos.

I did some quick sums, if i on average say i use 50 rest packs a day (2-3 games a day plus 4-6 training sessions). If i had to use tokens to buy green/rest packs it would cost me over AUD$2,500 a year to play (around AUD$50 a week). Top token package - 1031 tokens for AUD$159.99 = 0.16cents per token. Buy 50 rests = 46 tokens = AUD$7.14 in real cash. AUD$7.14 * 365 days = AUD$2,606 a year.

Simply point, unless more videos come available or more ways of getting packs or the 6% every 3 hours rest period is improved, this game (for me) is not playable. I cannot and refuse to pay around AUD$50 a week to play a mobile phone game.

I can appreciate that Nordeus is a business and they are hear to make money.

[Moi]

The silence on this issue is deafening. The admin has responded to other questions and issues but not this one. I wonder why.

I have only played this game for 6 months or so and have enjoyed it and i have purchased several parcels of tokens. However i am heavily reliant on the 'free' rest/green packs in particular after the last major update in regards to the training. I would on average use between 40 to 60 rest/green packs a day depending on how many matches and training sessions i would have. Since this most recent update i think i have only got around 10 rest packs from watching videos.

I did some quick sums, if i on average say i use 50 rest packs a day (2-3 games a day plus 4-6 training sessions). If i had to use tokens to buy green/rest packs it would cost me over AUD$2,500 a year to play (around AUD$50 a week). Top token package - 1031 tokens for AUD$159.99 = 0.16cents per token. Buy 50 rests = 46 tokens = AUD$7.14 in real cash. AUD$7.14 * 365 days = AUD$2,606 a year.

Simply point, unless more videos come available or more ways of getting packs or the 6% every 3 hours rest period is improved, this game (for me) is not playable. I cannot and refuse to pay around AUD$50 a week to play a mobile phone game.

I can appreciate that Nordeus is a business and they are hear to make money.

I will reuse part of what I wrote on another thread regarding the "OMG with the new Training you need a lot of rests!!" issue.

The need for rests is not that high, and if you see yourself struggling for that, maybe you need to do some changes in your daily activities / training.

Remember we have increased the % of recovery every 3h to 6%, that means players gain 8% more condition than before, every day (1% every 3h more). In fact, they recover 48% condition every day.

In my personal case, I like to train after all daily matches have already been played, on late evening, before going to sleep. I know everyone will gain 18%-24% condition the next time I open the game, in the morning, and because no injuries can happen, I train as much as I want, to reach 10% on each bonus (defensive, offensive, condition and possession. I know they will be reduced by 2% by next day, but then I will be 8% on each and really close to be max again.

The only thing I consider is the upcoming match. If I have a match at 13h next day, I want to be sure they will be fully rested more than 3h before that match, so I can do a quick training in the morning (with 6% condition recover incoming) that will reach me to all 10% bonus again. As this is usually not enough, what I do is overtrain all players I have in my squad who never/rarely play, substitutes and others, so I can effectively reach this 10% (sometimes is not possible, but in these cases I get 8%'s and 10%'s mixed). Of course I watch videos to get the Special Trainer on every session.

So I end up with a fully recovered team with (almost) all training bonuses at 10% (maybe not, but having full 8% it's also very good). Then if you have 3 matches on a specific day, your players will actually be recovering faster than before -I already explained why- so the situation will be better than it was before the new training came up.

Sometimes I use the option to give +6% to all team for 8-9 rests, but not every day (I'd say I only use it once or twice a week), and sometimes I give +15% to an individual player. But that doesn't have a big impact in my rests. Right now I am in all three competitions, so that's a good example. In fact, I have more rests than I was able to accumulate before, and I don't watch any videos or buy them. I just keep collecting them from my medical building, daily gifts and making substitutions during a match.

Of course if you are trying to reach from 0% to 10% bonus in the morning BEFORE all your matches happen, you will end up needing a lot of extra rests. Don't do that, be smart and train after that, take advantage of the long periods that you won't connect at all (for many reasons, mainly because you need to sleep, work, school, etc). Make sure you have 22 players in your squad and use the ones who never play matches to get to these bonus without affecting your main squad.

[Ahlony Wong]

I will reuse part of what I wrote on another thread regarding the "OMG with the new Training you need a lot of rests!!" issue.

The need for rests is not that high, and if you see yourself struggling for that, maybe you need to do some changes in your daily activities / training.

Remember we have increased the % of recovery every 3h to 6%, that means players gain 8% more condition than before, every day (1% every 3h more). In fact, they recover 48% condition every day.

In my personal case, I like to train after all daily matches have already been played, on late evening, before going to sleep. I know everyone will gain 18%-24% condition the next time I open the game, in the morning, and because no injuries can happen, I train as much as I want, to reach 10% on each bonus (defensive, offensive, condition and possession. I know they will be reduced by 2% by next day, but then I will be 8% on each and really close to be max again.

The only thing I consider is the upcoming match. If I have a match at 13h next day, I want to be sure they will be fully rested more than 3h before that match, so I can do a quick training in the morning (with 6% condition recover incoming) that will reach me to all 10% bonus again. As this is usually not enough, what I do is overtrain all players I have in my squad who never/rarely play, substitutes and others, so I can effectively reach this 10% (sometimes is not possible, but in these cases I get 8%'s and 10%'s mixed). Of course I watch videos to get the Special Trainer on every session.

So I end up with a fully recovered team with (almost) all training bonuses at 10% (maybe not, but having full 8% it's also very good). Then if you have 3 matches on a specific day, your players will actually be recovering faster than before -I already explained why- so the situation will be better than it was before the new training came up.

Sometimes I use the option to give +6% to all team for 8-9 rests, but not every day (I'd say I only use it once or twice a week), and sometimes I give +15% to an individual player. But that doesn't have a big impact in my rests. Right now I am in all three competitions, so that's a good example. In fact, I have more rests than I was able to accumulate before, and I don't watch any videos or buy them. I just keep collecting them from my medical building, daily gifts and making substitutions during a match.

Of course if you are trying to reach from 0% to 10% bonus in the morning BEFORE all your matches happen, you will end up needing a lot of extra rests. Don't do that, be smart and train after that, take advantage of the long periods that you won't connect at all (for many reasons, mainly because you need to sleep, work, school, etc). Make sure you have 22 players in your squad and use the ones who never play matches to get to these bonus without affecting your main squad.

3h for 6% enough? ...the problem is.... sometime i don't even have CUP...there are still 3 games scheduled a day...and somethime the games time are very close... like 10am... 1pm and then 5 pm...even i have 22 players, 10 am to 5 pm only has 7h in between, that is only 12% recover, a match only use 12% condition?? and between the game, the system force to have 2 training section for a "better preparation " for the up coming game.

so you suggest that we should ignore the training or just use a single "very easy" drill for 2 training and only training to the sub, not the main squad???

really?? if in that case, what is the point you create that new training system?? just for us to take a look and ignore it? and how could train the sub and get a better preparation for the main squad?

[Moi]

3h for 6% enough? ...the problem is.... sometime i don't even have CUP...there are still 3 games scheduled a day...and somethime the games time are very close... like 10am... 1pm and then 5 pm...even i have 22 players, 10 am to 5 pm only has 7h in between, that is only 12% recover, a match only use 12% condition?? and between the game, the system force to have 2 training section for a "better preparation " for the up coming game.

so you suggest that we should ignore the training or just use a single "very easy" drill for 2 training and only training to the sub, not the main squad???

really?? if in that case, what is the point you create that new training system??

This situation of having some official matches in the same day has not changed in Top Eleven for years (which every manager faces), there's nothing new about it with this release. As I mentioned, before 2015 release (January 2015) there was no way to get these hundreds of boosters daily from video offers, you could get some but not hundreds. And in relation to this, now players recover more condition than before. So, compared to the past situation, they need less rests.

Depending on which tactics you use a match will make your players lose more or less condition. Man to man and Hard pressing tactics will make your players lose more, while other tactics won't. And if you don't have a cup and you have 3 matches in one day, that means you will have many hours without any match (before or after these 3). Use these periods to train, go up in your bonus and leave your players fully rested afterwards.

Also, the system doesn't "force" you to do trainings, it's only a suggestion. "Better preparation" means more team bonuses, but you can manage to get very high bonuses by training the day before (before going to sleep for example) and leave your players to rest. That's what I do.

Then in the morning your bonuses will be all 8%, and you can quickly get them back to 10% if you have enough time to train before the next official match. If you don't have enough time, 8% bonuses are good enough anyway, or you can use some rests (not even close to 40 or 50) or you may settle for 8% bonus.