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    Quote Originally Posted by ProVeN View Post
    Well this exact season it is only because i made a comeback after being away from the game for more than a year, almost two

    my initial cup wins were from my very first seasons, the key is to improve your team on day one or as soon as you seem to not be able to beat the enemy teams anymore without upgrading
    That's actually an exploit but a legit one as long there's no rule to stop you. On another side we can't force the people to do this so you have no point here, you just play smart, watching the system, make your life easier, good to you but not everyone have the resources and the tokens to do this.

    Perry Sih
    , I agree with you and here's my old suggestion, it have years but not sure if is gonna happen, I already suggested this on January when I visited Nordeus.

    CUP is the most special competition and it don't need to be against the same levels because is same in real life, teams from first league can play with teams from 4th, 5th league but there can be a solution.

    My suggestion is to give an advantage to all players and an good shoot at least once at few seasons to win the CUP.

    I proposed a system based on levels, where teams are grouped by the levels so following this system, once at few seasons for sure you will be at the highest level.

    Level 1 always VS level 1
    Level 2 - Level 4
    Level 5 - Level 7
    Level 8 - Level 10 and so on...

    At level 2 you will have low chances.
    At level 3 you will have medium chances.
    At leve l4 you will have good chances.

    I guess is the only fair system because once again, you can't build a CUP only based on the same levels as some people suggested but I also agree with you, from time to time you must be the highest level because I noticed that some managers are never there, they always face +2,3 levels and they really don't have any chance and the CUP is just a worthless competition from them, maybe worst can increase the risk of injury and consumption of packs, tokens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin View Post
    That's actually an exploit but a legit one as long there's no rule to stop you. On another side we can't force the people to do this so you have no point here, you just play smart, watching the system, make your life easier, good to you but not everyone have the resources and the tokens to do this.

    Perry Sih
    , I agree with you and here's my old suggestion, it have years but not sure if is gonna happen, I already suggested this on January when I visited Nordeus.

    CUP is the most special competition and it don't need to be against the same levels because is same in real life, teams from first league can play with teams from 4th, 5th league but there can be a solution.

    My suggestion is to give an advantage to all players and an good shoot at least once at few seasons to win the CUP.

    I proposed a system based on levels, where teams are grouped by the levels so following this system, once at few seasons for sure you will be at the highest level.

    Level 1 always VS level 1
    Level 2 - Level 4
    Level 5 - Level 7
    Level 8 - Level 10 and so on...

    At level 2 you will have low chances.
    At level 3 you will have medium chances.
    At leve l4 you will have good chances.

    I guess is the only fair system because once again, you can't build a CUP only based on the same levels as some people suggested but I also agree with you, from time to time you must be the highest level because I noticed that some managers are never there, they always face +2,3 levels and they really don't have any chance and the CUP is just a worthless competition from them, maybe worst can increase the risk of injury and consumption of packs, tokens.
    my suggest is that the CUP go completely random for +/- 1 LV.....which is better that using the Q as the index for draw.... that is kind of a cheating...think about which team in the world can "lower" their team to get a better draw in any cup?? yet, this is the game system, but the problem for Q index is that the LV limited.... a LV 18 .... 5 stars is already over power a LV 14 no matter what the LV 14 do.... and i am already not even talking that the LV 18 to get fast trainer and train them in day 1 to 6 or 7 stars .....

    this is how stupid the Q index draw~ if go completely random for +/- 1 LV...if you face 2LV that is your unlucky draw....not really human side affect ....but you lower the Q for the draw...this is the human side effect.... yet...this is how this system right now... but this is the grey area which i consider this is one kind of the "CHEATING" ~

    so...i already ignore CUP already....unless it change this stupid Q index draw....LOL otherwise, i will keep saying that who design this type of draw is complete idiot~ sorry for the word~ but yet, i say my thought~ LOL this Q index draw is idiot~~

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    Indeed, I have heard about the exploit of the game engine, where one would fill his substitute slots with as low star players as he could find, such that he would be placed in a Cup bracket full of lower level teams, and perhaps also face lower quality teams in the Champions League and the regular season. Some people would say that "This is the way it is, get on with it." But I'm saying that it doesn't have to be this way, and it's easily changeable by Nordeus, as shown in how the bracket creation rules have changed twice this year already.
    From the game developer's point of view, it doesn't make sense to make the game no fun for its players. And this type of hopeless disadvantage is not worth spending loads of real money on anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PricopGeorgeCătălin View Post
    That's actually an exploit but a legit one as long there's no rule to stop you. On another side we can't force the people to do this so you have no point here, you just play smart, watching the system, make your life easier, good to you but not everyone have the resources and the tokens to do this.

    Perry Sih
    , I agree with you and here's my old suggestion, it have years but not sure if is gonna happen, I already suggested this on January when I visited Nordeus.

    CUP is the most special competition and it don't need to be against the same levels because is same in real life, teams from first league can play with teams from 4th, 5th league but there can be a solution.

    My suggestion is to give an advantage to all players and an good shoot at least once at few seasons to win the CUP.

    I proposed a system based on levels, where teams are grouped by the levels so following this system, once at few seasons for sure you will be at the highest level.

    Level 1 always VS level 1
    Level 2 - Level 4
    Level 5 - Level 7
    Level 8 - Level 10 and so on...

    At level 2 you will have low chances.
    At level 3 you will have medium chances.
    At leve l4 you will have good chances.

    I guess is the only fair system because once again, you can't build a CUP only based on the same levels as some people suggested but I also agree with you, from time to time you must be the highest level because I noticed that some managers are never there, they always face +2,3 levels and they really don't have any chance and the CUP is just a worthless competition from them, maybe worst can increase the risk of injury and consumption of packs, tokens.
    Don't sounds more like "Khris proposed" ...¬¬'

    Khris proposed a system 3 levels by 3, 1-3 4-6 7-10 etc so at least one time every 3 seasons one have the market advantadge lol

    Well the main problem here is that the server, to do the cups, should use 128 teams, starting for the higher level.... till use all teams and then the 2nd better level... and, if theres a level or 2 "practically empty" lets say L34 and 35 with just... 2 and 2 leagues so 56 teams then here will be the main problem... but, for another side, I see that Nordeus moved some time ago teams of higher levels in other servers in order to don't stay eternally facing same opponents.... so the formula to have a good amount of teams in all levels is posible.