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if you are in counter atack and you loss the ball chances are very high your oponent will score a goal against you , because your deffenders go to atackOriginally Posted by Trella
if you are in counter atack and you loss the ball chances are very high your oponent will score a goal against you , because your deffenders go to atack
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Counter attack does not leave your defense wide open. Counter attack is not full out attack. Counter attack is quickly distributing the ball towards the opponent's end in the quickest possible way. Mostly counter attacks are executed with long balls towards your highest attackers after dispossessing the opponent in your half while they are attacking which leaves your opponents wide open not you. However counter attack risks losing possession higher because everything is played at top speed, high rewards and low chances. Real madrid plays counter attack. Barcelona is a type of team that does not play counter attack because they prefer moving the ball upfield with slow build up play to maintain possession.
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This is the best answer I've heard in a while, I know there are a lot of differing opinions about the use of 'Force Counter Attack'. But your answer really fits what I have been experiencing with my team, I counter with different formations, tactics and mentalities, all the time, and it has the exact effect you have described.
Force counter may be more effective with a normal or defensive mentalities, but you can use 'force counter' within an attacking strategy too, I attack!
Once the opposition looses the ball whilst on offense, 'force counter' will long pass (even if you have set short pass on!) to the front most open striker let it be a ST, AMs, Ms or even Ds quickly, and shock attack them. It really has nothing to do with your defense being unorganized or not. Its most effective if their defense is unprepared (no off side, man on man) for this sudden attack. Your attacker will 80% lone it, one-on-one or just have support and pass/cross at the last minute. It is a low possession move, giving the ball away a lot, but the rewards are high, so you have to judge.
I play 'force counter' all the time, my assist are very very low, (3 goals to 1 assist) most goals are one-on-one, so best if your have strikers that can dribble, shoot and finish.
When giving out help to newbies about tactics and formations I will always say "I like to counter", that is it, I will not insist this is the best thing since sliced bread.
I have built my team with 'force counter' in mind, always pressing my own half, I have a strong defensive back line, no off sides and a fall back DMC most games. 100's of games all with 'force counter' on, I'm like addicted, whenever I test it off, I see the difference, fewer goals.
Force counter is most noticeable when used against weaker or stronger teams. Teams with an all out attacking mentality, a red out team.
P.S. Please do not misunderstand, there is no turbo button with top eleven, force counter if done incorrectly will lose you more game than win.
Peace!
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Good answer but....
We don't know if it really works here... or just cosmetic stuff.
Force counter will affect your passing ration, your assist, you will see different comments(!!!) and it will change the way your team attacks.
Turn it off in a friendly and turn it on against the same team, keep your conditions and morale the same and see the difference.
P.S. There are lots of people that believe Force counter will cause you to be defenseless which is untrue, it is about the speed of your attack build up. A slow short pass build up will also fail, just Force counter attack fail rate is higher, but used against a man-on-man team or an all attack team, it's the BOMB!
In football it is better to be Lucky than Good.
Ok, I'll try it out, but be advised that when we have tokens and great players, everything we think seems to work.
hmmm...
i still think that counters are good...
one friend of me playing 4-1-4-1
normal mentality, short passes, counter
in logic this is a defencive set up...
but he always scores to 2 - 5 goals
and always has more attends to goal that oppinent ...
strange or fact ???
p.s. for this reason am thinking to start play 4-4-1-1
new question
with formation
3-1-4-1-1
and short and mix passing
i read that its better to DONT use counter attacks
but am not sure why !!
can any one tell me why not ???
Holy thread res.
I have a side that counter-attacks every match regardless of opposition (mainly because I want to be able to recognise when my main team is on the receiving end to avoid the corner count turbo boost). Force Counter attacks does not break an attacking formation and so it can still work, but an attacking formation will not get as much advantage from it as defensive.....fewer triggered events imo. For me the power of Force Counters come from maximising the one-on-ones when breaking fast. So I use defensive to do that, just my preference. That's why when its working well you see higher corner counts and/or a better ration of shots on target to shots for the c-a team. Wins are not guaranteed.
My real advice tho is don't dismiss Whole Pitch Pressing as part of a c-a strategy. Its not Force Whole Pitch. If you take the view that T11 has Pressing always on and that you only get to limit it to Own Half or No limit then for me it can make sense. Your players won't ignore every other settings just to rush all over the pitch chasing the ball.
After 3 seasons of always using defensive c-a I've tried Own Half and Whole Pitch and found no difference between results except when playing higher level opponents - then Whole Pitch performs better on average than Own.
In my language it says 'force opponent to counter attack', so I still don't know for sure whether it means that I play counter attack or that I force my opponent to play counter attack. How do you guys know for sure that it means that you play counter attack yourself?
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