Substitutions and how they affect the match!

[Kto]

I have observed this issue, as right in the first match all three subs brought a goal during 0-3 mins after. I scored 7 goals in the second half though, nevertheless now I have some stats after 18 official games and hope, that you guys create something similar and give me tips what factors I might forget.
So we have 18 games, 56 goals scored (I observe only scores from me; many oppos dont attend and even if sometimes dont sub, and for me its a good weapon as I have a great bench, so for the simplicity just my goals; I believe there were almost no goals after opponents subs abyways, as well as no oppo goals after my subs). I do subs only in the second half so we take 37 goals scored there (yes, 19 1st half, 37 2nd, I mostly change to high press after 45 mins in tough games and bring more offensive if in troubles). Its 37 goals in 45*18=810 mins ~ 21,89 mins for a goal.
18 games ~ 50 subs (4 subs were "double" so I count them only once). Divide periods after them in three groups:
1) 0-1 mins after the sub ~ 4 goals scored
2) 2-3 mins ~ 4 goals
3) 4-5 mins ~ 6 goals
Alltogether in 0-5 mins after sub there were 14 goals, scored in 50subs*5mins=250"after-sub-mins". Its 250/14=17,85 mins for a goal.
Compared to 21,89 overall in the second half a better rate.
In 0-3 mins we have 8 goals, 3*50=150min/8=18,75 min/g.
Conclusion: so far substitution might help a bit to increase the chance to score, but needs more data.
Sidenote: Substitution gives fresh condition, can the whole team have a benefit?
Edit: not sure how to count only goals in the same minute as the sub was done, we cant really take 0 as a factor.
Edit2: no asso games

[Tyltyl]

Great analysis Kto and I would agree with you, fresh forces would benefit the whole team, except that usually the subbed player is not involved in the action (at least for me) or the substitution triggers a goal for the opponent.
To me, it keeps happening every day

[Tyltyl]

A game from an active player in my league

[Kto]

The problem with my system is that there times are rounded by a minute. Sometimes sub and goal happen in the same minute, sub-goal or goal-sub, both seen. So seems like sub doesnt have to happen exactly at mm:00, so the period 0-5 "after-sub-time" can last from 5:00 (i.e. 52:59 - 57:59) up to 5:59 (52:00 - 57:59), so if we round it at 5:30, we get 5,5*50/14=19,64 min/g , some less benefit from the sub but still. For the 0-3 period, if we count with 3:30 instead, it even goes to 21,88 min/g, almost same as basic 21,89. I will calculate again after the season.

[Tyltyl]

[KenoticFC]

My theory is this. The game lasts around 10 minutes. The animation doesn't show you every minute of the game which I hate.The game I think has around 5 cycles of refreshing (new assistant manager tip, player rating refreshes ex.) When you make a sub I think its the only direct indication to the game that an action is made so that may be a reason a goal happens after the sub.

[Kto]

Tyltyl, in so much time you made all those screenshots, you could have easilly made any calculation which would be much more helfpful imo

[Tyltyl]

Tyltyl, in so much time you made all those screenshots, you could have easilly made any calculation which would be much more helfpful imo

Well, sorry about that? I don't have to do anything other than reporting stuff or whatever I feel like to during my day. First you said they were only single examples, I keep posting screens proving that this happens in a huge part of my games to see how high is the occurrence, and you say it's not a verification. Now this, whatever I do it is not of your liking.
A screenshot with Windows 10 snipping tool takes 2 seconds, anyway. If you'd like to make calculations to help understanding the problems you are free do to it and good for you, I do what I feel like the same way.

BTW
Here's another one from my league, happened a few minutes ago. Away manager was watching, the home one was not present, so that was even an auto-sub.

[Kto]

Sry mate, didnt want to offend. I thank you for the screenshots and the whole issue of the thread, just keep saying, that it needs more than single screenshots, you should take in consideration the number of matches and goals at least. You realize, that I could have had 14 screenshots (only my subs and goals) in 18 games, and it doesnt say much? If you have more, it could be a trend, still more matches needed to proof. Thats why I just had an egoistic hope you make the database bigger as you also waste ur time with this anyways

[Michael O a]

You have to play smart, observe your opponent and punish him for his mistakes.