First 20 minutes, you know you will lose the game...

[Lukáš Ledecký]

LOL! The 2nd post reply me is a great example for showing that the game engine is not even good, because this would never ever happen in real football.

[gizzmo]

In real football, you'll never see a 5 times world champion losing at home 1-7 in World cup semi.
In real football, you'll never see a team beaten 0-4 on first leg winning 6-1 three weeks later.
In real football, you'll never see the same team win 4-2 away against a half-amateur team and lose 1-4 at home on second leg.
In real football, you'll never see a team whose players were drinking beer on the beach being called up in last minute to play an European championship tournament and eventually win the final against the world champions.
etc...
Or would you ?

[Tyltyl]

In real football, you'll never see a 5 times world champion losing at home 1-7 in World cup semi.
In real football, you'll never see a team beaten 0-4 on first leg winning 6-1 three weeks later.
In real football, you'll never see the same team win 4-2 away against a half-amateur team and lose 1-4 at home on second leg.
In real football, you'll never see a team whose players were drinking beer on the beach being called up in last minute to play an European championship tournament and eventually win the final against the world champions.
etc...
Or would you ?

This stuff were exceptions that happened once and made history. In TE this happens every day or several times every season.

Please, I ask one more times, STOP comparing TE with real football, they have nothing in common. You are comparing number crunching and equations to real people and real actions. The first can be influenced by anything and we (as players) will never know what.

[gizzmo]

This stuff were exceptions that happened once and made history. In TE this happens every day or several times every season.

Please, I ask one more times, STOP comparing TE with real football, they have nothing in common. You are comparing number crunching and equations to real people and real actions. The first can be influenced by anything and we (as players) will never know what.

You know what mate: you do what I want and me too. You are one of those claiming you are continuously being trolled while I'm not. If I lost 3 times in 33 seasons with no obvious reason (according to my poor mind), that must be a maximum. The other times, there were reasons. This morning, I just beat a team 25% superior in cup 5-1. Maybe this guy is here on the forum whining about being trolled. But I can tell you there were loads of reasons that could explain his defeat. No this game is not perfect, I agree. But I think overall it is not too bad. You are perfectly entitled to disagree with me but if I were playing a game as crap as the one you mention, I would just drop it.

[Tyltyl]

You know what mate: you do what I want and me too. You are one of those claiming you are continuously being trolled while I'm not. If I lost 3 times in 33 seasons with no obvious reason (according to my poor mind), that must be a maximum. The other times, there were reasons. This morning, I just beat a team 25% superior in cup 5-1. Maybe this guy is here on the forum whining about being trolled. But I can tell you there were loads of reasons that could explain his defeat. No this game is not perfect, I agree. But I think overall it is not too bad. You are perfectly entitled to disagree with me but if I were playing a game as crap as the one you mention, I would just drop it.

If you are not getting trolled it doesn't mean it doesn't happen to anybody else. Hiding behind what "doesn't happen to you" won't solve anything and not only in this game. Many people aren't affected by many other problems in life, does that mean that the problem doesn't exist?
Trolling results didn't happen to me for some seasons, but in the latest one I've seen streaks of weird results for me, for association mates and for many other people on the forums. Every time you see the same stuff, manager absent, bots playing, shot efficiency higher than usual.

You can keep comparing this to reality which is just silly, much like comparing any other manager games based on math to what happens in reality. There would still be shady stuff going on, bugs, problems and a lot of other stuff.

[ZeDzy]

I think that moaning because of bad result is just same as blaming other and simply afraid of saying the truth - you mismanaged your team or were simply unlucky.

Anyone who wants to make any kind of statement about simulation engine MUST PROVIDE STATISTICAL EVIDANCE and 1 match is not evidence. In any single one match can happen ANYTHING. Yes it hurts a lot when you loose to that 20% weaker team with no manager, but remember, that you most probably won last 10 of such matches, so it's just statistical correction... It's like a bad beat in poker - you did everything correctly and went all in with absolute nuts, but opponent got 1 lucky out and beat you - that does NOT show that the system is rigged or that you played bad or anything else apart that you just got unlucky...

[KenoticFC]

In real football, you'll never see a 5 times world champion losing at home 1-7 in World cup semi.
In real football, you'll never see a team beaten 0-4 on first leg winning 6-1 three weeks later.
In real football, you'll never see the same team win 4-2 away against a half-amateur team and lose 1-4 at home on second leg.
In real football, you'll never see a team whose players were drinking beer on the beach being called up in last minute to play an European championship tournament and eventually win the final against the world champions.
etc...
Or would you ?

In real football extra time does not exist. In real football you can heal a broken leg in 1 day. Oh that's only in TE.
The game can't hide a broken engine behind realism only when it favors Nordeus.I can't stress this enough but comparing Barca or Brazil
with an unattended team in TE doesn't make sense to me.

[woopypooky]

The first 20-25min is predetermined before the game start. If u make changes it will need 10 min to take effect. Thats what I believe.

[Kto]

if I were playing a game as crap as the one you mention, I would just drop it.

Pssst, evil powers bring us to do absurd things.

[ZeDzy]

MAIN REASON why people are not happy about the simulation engine is that they just simply do not understand how does it work - and most probably no body understands, apart Nordeus employees. In order to shut up people, Nordeus must provide some guidance what works against what? Something like this:

• Attacking beats defending
• Defending beats normal
• Normal beats attacking
• Playing wings does not work if oponent have strong DL/DR
• Short pases creates 30% less chances, but adds 10% possesion and 10% better conversion rate
• 20% stronger team have 70% chance of winning if all other stuff is equal

Obviously I just made it up - but guidance like this would be so much helpfull if we knew some stuff for sure.
For people angry at results - I can simply say that simulation is a randomization process in which you never get 100% result. If your team is MUCH stronger, then it might be that you have overall chance of 99% that you will win, but it is never going to be 100%. And remember, everyday there are millions of matches simulated, so troll results are inevitable.