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    @Ioannis Boulakas
    don't judge from one game.
    Asso games have anyway a bigger random factor.
    See what his team doing all the weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    @Ioannis Boulakas
    don't judge from one game.
    Asso games have anyway a bigger random factor.
    See what his team doing all the weekend.
    Nik, the association engine is actually the same engine that is used for league, champions league and cup matches.

    What's happening is that their is a cultural component to tactics. Basically, some nations, especially those with a rich footballing history have a cultural signature to their play style, whether it be a counter attacking style, tiki-taka, all-out attack, etc... Since several servers are heavy with one or two nations making up the vast majority of the managers, managers tactics and they way the game is learned is being defined by what the dominant playstyle(s) of that server are. So the tactics that work best on one server, won't necessarily experience as much success on a different server. What's happening with association is that the servers are being merged together, so managers on server 17 and playing against managers on servers other than server 17.

    Here is my performance in my current association

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    27 total bonuses given so far; haven't missed bonus. 27*6 = 162 maximum points. I've earned 147 total, for 147/162 overall. An overall record of 48-3-3 since I joined this association. I don't believe that pace to be sustainable, but over my last 54 non association matches, I have the same exact record of 48-3-3.

    Basically, association, league, cup, CL/SL all are the same game engine, but footballing culture defines tactics, so managers on different servers are learning the game differently, due to different styles of play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel View Post
    Nik, the association engine is actually the same engine that is used for league, champions league and cup matches.

    What's happening is that their is a cultural component to tactics. Basically, some nations, especially those with a rich footballing history have a cultural signature to their play style, whether it be a counter attacking style, tiki-taka, all-out attack, etc... Since several servers are heavy with one or two nations making up the vast majority of the managers, managers tactics and they way the game is learned is being defined by what the dominant playstyle(s) of that server are. So the tactics that work best on one server, won't necessarily experience as much success on a different server. What's happening with association is that the servers are being merged together, so managers on server 17 and playing against managers on servers other than server 17.

    Here is my performance in my current association

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    27 total bonuses given so far; haven't missed bonus. 27*6 = 162 maximum points. I've earned 147 total, for 147/162 overall. An overall record of 48-3-3 since I joined this association. I don't believe that pace to be sustainable, but over my last 54 non association matches, I have the same exact record of 48-3-3.

    Basically, association, league, cup, CL/SL all are the same game engine, but footballing culture defines tactics, so managers on different servers are learning the game differently, due to different styles of play.
    Is that really true? And if you change a players nationality will they perform differently?
    For example, if I changed my MC, to Spanish would he really pass better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smk fc View Post
    Is that really true? And if you change a players nationality will they perform differently?
    For example, if I changed my MC, to Spanish would he really pass better?
    Nationality of the players (generated by nordeus) on a roster doesn't matter.

    It's all about the footballing culture of the region that manager of the team is from. Basically, lets say 90% of managers from Turkey playing an attacking playstyle, if I setup with a counter-attacking system, I have a 90% chance of having my tactics correct, at least at the start of the match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel View Post
    Nationality of the players (generated by nordeus) on a roster doesn't matter.

    It's all about the footballing culture of the region that manager of the team is from. Basically, lets say 90% of managers from Turkey playing an attacking playstyle, if I setup with a counter-attacking system, I have a 90% chance of having my tactics correct, at least at the start of the match.
    So if I am from UK, the way it set up my team doesn't matter I will naturally play a certain way which will be different to if I was from Turkey? Are you sure?
    If you are right, then why can I look at opposition and plan depending on what nation he is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smk fc View Post
    So if I am from UK, the way it set up my team doesn't matter I will naturally play a certain way which will be different to if I was from Turkey? Are you sure?
    If you are right, then why can I look at opposition and plan depending on what nation he is?
    With the cultural theory, its about playing probabilities.

    If you're from the UK, it doesn't mean your tactics will be the same as every other manager from the UK. It just means that there is a most common playstyle. Tactics ultimately are the choice of the manager. And the more skilled the manager, the less likely they are to have their tactics conform to what the dominant cultural system is.

    Unskilled managers (or skilled but inactive managers) have a large role in defining this most common playstyle. They don't really understand what does what tactically, but change things around to find what works best. So ultimately, their is a high probability that they'll end up using the tactic that is the most common on their server, or that tactic which counters the most common system. But they don't understand why these tactics are working. So in some cases, some tactics that matchup well against an association opponent, have a poor success rate on some servers, so managers aren't confident in using them when it's the best option for a specific opponent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel View Post
    Nik, the association engine is actually the same engine that is used for league, champions league and cup matches.

    What's happening is that their is a cultural component to tactics. Basically, some nations, especially those with a rich footballing history have a cultural signature to their play style, whether it be a counter attacking style, tiki-taka, all-out attack, etc... Since several servers are heavy with one or two nations making up the vast majority of the managers, managers tactics and they way the game is learned is being defined by what the dominant playstyle(s) of that server are. So the tactics that work best on one server, won't necessarily experience as much success on a different server. What's happening with association is that the servers are being merged together, so managers on server 17 and playing against managers on servers other than server 17.

    Here is my performance in my current association

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ID:	90790

    27 total bonuses given so far; haven't missed bonus. 27*6 = 162 maximum points. I've earned 147 total, for 147/162 overall. An overall record of 48-3-3 since I joined this association. I don't believe that pace to be sustainable, but over my last 54 non association matches, I have the same exact record of 48-3-3.

    Basically, association, league, cup, CL/SL all are the same game engine, but footballing culture defines tactics, so managers on different servers are learning the game differently, due to different styles of play.
    Are you in platinium? What division have you played mostly in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smk fc View Post
    Are you in platinium? What division have you played mostly in?
    currently in platinum. Association history for last 7 seasons (including this one) below.



    Gold 1 (Great Tactican) overall record 10-2-4
    Platinum (Great Tactican) overall record 11-3-2
    Platinum (Great Tactican); switched associations Gold 1 (Party Trix) overall record 2-2-0 (platinum) 4-0-0 (gold 1)
    Gold 1 (Party Trix) overall record 15-0-1
    Gold 1 (Party Trix) overall record 14-1-1
    Platinum (Party Trix) overall record 13-2-1
    Platinum (Party Trix - this season) overall record 2-0-0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunzo View Post
    Personally I´d like to see Baldy Dave team
    But its Liverpool so it will be Sh???
    This post will be moved ... lol
    Who is Baldy Dave, and how does he relate to this?
    Also, if the post will be moved why post it???
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel View Post
    Nik, the association engine is actually the same engine that is used for league, champions league and cup matches.

    What's happening is that their is a cultural component to tactics. Basically, some nations, especially those with a rich footballing history have a cultural signature to their play style, whether it be a counter attacking style, tiki-taka, all-out attack, etc... Since several servers are heavy with one or two nations making up the vast majority of the managers, managers tactics and they way the game is learned is being defined by what the dominant playstyle(s) of that server are. So the tactics that work best on one server, won't necessarily experience as much success on a different server. What's happening with association is that the servers are being merged together, so managers on server 17 and playing against managers on servers other than server 17.

    Here is my performance in my current association

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Name:	1 a a association2.PNG 
Views:	118 
Size:	38.2 KB 
ID:	90790

    27 total bonuses given so far; haven't missed bonus. 27*6 = 162 maximum points. I've earned 147 total, for 147/162 overall. An overall record of 48-3-3 since I joined this association. I don't believe that pace to be sustainable, but over my last 54 non association matches, I have the same exact record of 48-3-3.

    Basically, association, league, cup, CL/SL all are the same game engine, but footballing culture defines tactics, so managers on different servers are learning the game differently, due to different styles of play.
    Lol hilarious. You really believe nordeus are capable of developing a culture based engine. Is it April the 1st?

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