I give up

[Peter Lecht]

Acting like a 5 year old child...posting in every thread against those who doesn't like the new update or how the game has become lately lol

There are no prizes for second kid.

Went through all your comments/post you seem like a person who thinks highly of them selves.
You think you are smarter, wiser, the most logical human being in this world.
Non of posts/comments are constructive, never once i saw you motivate, giving "constructive" advice and encourage people on here.
You know what and you wanna know what i think about you judging from your judgments, your posts etc.? You are a p@#! @@#.

if i'm ban from saying that, i guess it's worth getting banned.

[HairDryer]

Really...........if the game sucks that badly for you then why are you still playing it and worst of all , why are you telling us. If it was me and I thought the game sucked I just wouldnt play anymore and I certainly wouldnt waste my time telling everyone , all you would see from me is dust.

I think you need to show some respect towards others on whatever they feel about the game. Like i did respect the way you feel and play your game.

Life sucks sometime John but it doesnt mean you have to commit suicide.

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[Antonio Gustavo Hernandez]

Make games for passion and because you love it, not because of profit. We play for fun, not to spend money. Profit and fun will come either way if you make a good game.

This is not a football manager, plain and simple.

I never thought that they shouldn't make profit much, on the contrary I always supported that they should earn more and more since they are doing this job for money. However, these guys don't get satisfied, this is a fact, and they are choosing interesting and mesmerizing ways to steal, yup, steal.

Actually, I never either thought or implied that they steal, and I always supported their previous actions. But that last squad update is nothing but trying to make people buy their redundantly expensive ****ty daily recommended players by stealing people's current squad strength, I am 100% sure of it. They first announced by their amateur employees that it is not a update which affects the match makings, which I doubted after having different results than I usually do and realized that it's such a lie after training my 3 7* subs to 8*, then today, I saw a different figures on the club profiles of some of my friends, which have not been aware of it. What a coincidence. So, we are now playing a rugby game rather than a football/soccer game lol and if one have a 8* team, the 7* subs are out of order. The sad thing is there are some smartasses who think this is a move to prevent manipulation which is funny. Training 3 more players to 6* or 7* would not be a matter for manipulators, believe me.

No, I am not a tanker, I am a heavy token buyer who have supported these guys by at least buying 1K tokens per month via G Play or Appstore, which would be considered as a fortune for most members here, after I started to play the game. I have been buying 2-2.5K for the last 8 months plus monthly card. As said above, they serve me a service that I can have fun, so they deserve it.

Another thing is 2X bonus thing, actually I never used my 2nd team after I moved to my new house, to which I moved last February. I never used VPN, never used that advertising thing. The only thing I do is watching those god damn videos when I have them. Yet, those god damn 2X bonus videos are absent at least 2 weeks per month on my account. Come on guys, I made that touching 24 hours bonus mistake a couple of times, but not anymore.

Therefore, aside from all these jokes and shambles, these guys have proven they are not a trustworthy company, which I mostly value as a customer. I mean, who can guarantee from now on they won't make this squad update to 18 players, or they won't close all free videos in a day as they wish, or even take your club that won many trophies and force you to start over. Plus, aside from all these jokes and shambles they have earned a thievery ribbon from me too.

I don't think it is the problem of people, who think that way, the more they will lose the trust of their customers, the more they will face the facts one day.

Anyway, unless I will face another joke trolls, I am completing the treble achievement this season. Actually, timing worked perfectly, I was certain on stopping my donations due to those jokes and shambles that are existed but I had questions on my mind related to the quitting the game completely. I finally decided.

I am not that much old player comparing to the most members here, but I can understand you Tyltyl, and I am coming along with you.

I am also 100% sure of this, if any dev reads here, s/he will chuckle with an arrogant manner. That's another story of these guys, they don't have any respect to their customers, but as said before it is the problem of them, not of us. So, they will face the facts one day.

[nikolgiorgos]

Let me add few things.
First, @John Grant, if you don’t understand what Tyltyl want to say (or what are his emotions) there is no need to make such a post.
You were welcome in that forum few days ago with some helpful replies so posts like this don’t contribute to a better ambience.
Ok, there are members with some temper and style of writing,
If they respect the forum rules, no problem to express as they like. Every one gets critics about that.

“if the game sucks that badly for you then why are you still playing it and worst of all , why are you telling us”.

Because we love to play TE

But we are also free to criticize or spot some bad points of the game.

Yes, some times with emotions like
Anger (a very old post of mine about injuries)
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...op-eleven.html

Disappointment (5 injuries in one day)
https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...p-my-team.html

Or constructive mood
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...-injuries.html

but at the end injuries issue was fixed.

@madflo spot the loans trick and with the pressure of the forum members, they fixed thατ issue too (or else we would play vs 10* teams every while)
https://forum.topeleven.com/associat...ber-loans.html

And @haidryer was breaking our @@ but also contribute a lot to have the Club History and season stats back.

So, what does it mean ?
That we should stop playing because it is what it is or accept it ?

So peace brothers, keep calm and play top eleven

[nikolgiorgos]

Another thing I read here and there is that greed motivates nordeus.

Really , how you come to that conclusion guys ?

For sure the game some issues but where is this “greed” ?

Some old for example
- Why someone to use personal trainer when with those tokens can train 3 players instead of one ?
- Why to have in our scout’s list 30 y.o. players who cost 40-50 tokens ?
- Why to spend extra tokens for a player who is penalties specialist when we know that this sa is useless ?

Or some newer
- Why we have recommended 21 y.o. players the last day of the season ?
- Why the penalties bug in asso games is not fixed yet and they giving compensations to managers who had this ?
- Who’s gonna pay 400 tokens for a 25 y.o. player ?

All I can see is a team of devs who are trying to add new features in the game, sometimes great (like associations or live game), other times bad (like auctions) or questionable (training/skills or the new team setup).

Sorry, but I cannot see any “greed”.

[John Grant]

madflo pointing you not Tyltyl amigo; anyway sooner or later you will learn and know the game

but by this time better to read this first please: https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...-civility.html



be advice don't get addicted unless today or tomorrow you will withdraw what you stated above.

Not really , I think I can stand behind my earlier statement as I have before in other games. If I find a game not going the direction I would like then I leave quietly. I cant see the point in having a rant against a game while saying I am not going to play it anymore. Happened to me a few times , most recently was a game called World Of Tanks which started out as a great game of strategy and ended up being a crappy shootem up tank racing game. After nearly 6 years of playing it I just stopped and moved on to another game and never said a word. Besides I dont mind this game even with its many imperfections because it is what it says it is , a game and not a simulator.
Anyway cheers for the advice anyway.

[John Grant]

Sorry if I upset some people with an earlier comment but I talk plainly , bluntly, maybe too bluntly for some in here. Thats life , get on with it.

[HairDryer]

@ Nik let me try answer this question

Another thing I read here and there is that greed motivates nordeus.

Really , how you come to that conclusion guys ?

For sure the game some issues but where is this “greed” ?

Some old for example

- Why someone to use personal trainer when with those tokens can train 3 players instead of one ?
Jose Mourinho.

- Why to have in our scout’s list 30 y.o. players who cost 40-50 tokens ?
Before Nordeus sent them to the slaughter house they sell it to us. Maybe they should consider a 50% discount.

- Why to spend extra tokens for a player who is penalties specialist when we know that this sa is useless ?
Just for a decoration purpose(cosmetic).

Or some newer

- Why we have recommended 21 y.o. players the last day of the season ?
So he can celebrate his 21st birthday with the team.

- Why the penalties bug in asso games is not fixed yet and they giving compensations to managers who had this ?
They still dont know how to fixed it. So they do some corruption to shut our mouth.

- Who’s gonna pay 400 tokens for a 25 y.o. player ?
USARABAT.

Well hope i give a logic answer.



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[KenoticFC]

I don't think I have ever considered them greedy, to be fair for a free game this is not unplayable without spending. I think that the biggest disappointment comes when you see certain type of offers that don't make any sense from an experienced players view, like HairDryer and others mentioned.
This type of ''offers'' look more like cash-grabs to me, a new player sees them and buys them, doesn't know they are not any good and thinks he now has an advantage just because he has a 7 star player that he bought for more Tokens then he was worth it. In this case it is more like preying on ignorance than greed, again I do not condemn them but as someone who knows better, this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I felt bad in early stages when I saw teams with 11 scouts failing, maybe they should have known better and get informed, sadly not everyone reads the forum, but still this does not excuse the game from being vague. I learned many things only after I joined the forum and felt silly for stuff that I did in the game before.

The biggest thing nordeus should do in regards to its users is more fairness in the value of Tokens. 6 T for 5 green pack is not a good deal in your worst day, why it exists then??? Personal trainer is used only by PSG and Man City owners and the Negotiations don't give us freedom to treat our players in the way we want.

[Ποσιδονας]

Sorry if I upset some people with an earlier comment but I talk plainly , bluntly, maybe too bluntly for some in here. Thats life , get on with it.

Ok but be careful not to switch role.
You know, some people don't forgive or forget
lol