Why do these people even play the game?

[rogerniceguy]

Why do people tank?

People tank so they can have an advantage when it comes to winning trophies. Increased quality, extra rest packs farmed, massive quality so when playing normally, no need to spend greens to win trophies. It's all a mechanism to unlevel the playing field, to have an advantage over other managers. It's similar to buying tokens, but a tanker generally leeches off the game, while a token buyer invests in nordeus, but both are doing so to have an advantage. It's human nature to seek a means of gaining an advantage over the competition.

The sad thing is, It's a strategy that has been around for years, yet nordeus has done nothing to alleviate it's abuse.

And to be frank, many managers only have a problem with exploiting, if the exploiting causes them to lose. For example, how many complaining about association exploiters, win several triple crowns due to manipulating CL and cup draws to play down a level? Both examples, we have someone ruining the game for other managers. Many that are exploiting, may not even realize that they are exploiting, they might even have some stupid hogwash moral justification for their exploiting.

Thats true. Every change against any exploit has given a negative response. Not helped the changes are accompanied by bugs of course.

Also nordeus match making an issue. For me game needs a mega clean up. Remove inactive teams. Merge servers. Merge some levels if need be to help higher levels. Then stop the +1 unfair draws. Eliminate tanking. And draws based on best eleven. Game is not called Top Fourteen lol

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[pcmacdaniel]

Thats true. Every change against any exploit has given a negative response. Not helped the changes are accompanied by bugs of course.

Also nordeus match making an issue. For me game needs a mega clean up. Remove inactive teams. Merge servers. Merge some levels if need be to help higher levels. Then stop the +1 unfair draws. Eliminate tanking. And draws based on best eleven. Game is not called Top Fourteen lol

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I really like the idea of a server merge. I'm at level 48 and I play against the same teams every season, a little more variety would be nice. Maybe an all CL winners competitions consisting of only managers from one level.

[Ποσιδονας]

the worst thing about this is the moderators like NIKO the greek, and KHRIS are the biggest tankers going in top 11, they like all tanker comments and literally encourage it !
WHAT HOPE DO WE HAVE !! along with all the other experts on here with 1000+ posts who live on here.
they are supposed to be moderators not encouragers to ruin the damn game !!!!

At least Niko and Khris have post a hundred posts each about how to improve the game, suggestions, unfair issues. Your posts have only irony, moaning and drinking bs.

[Ποσιδονας]

Thats true. Every change against any exploit has given a negative response. Not helped the changes are accompanied by bugs of course.

Also nordeus match making an issue. For me game needs a mega clean up. Remove inactive teams. Merge servers. Merge some levels if need be to help higher levels. Then stop the +1 unfair draws. Eliminate tanking. And draws based on best eleven. Game is not called Top Fourteen lol

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Agree, that’s what I m talking about. Starting from top100. The game didn't have those problems before associations.

[nikolgiorgos]

and who said that moderator's job is to make suggestions ?
My duty is to move forward the suggestions or issues of the game from other members to the adms

and moderate some posts, like yours as usual

[khris]

Another option would be, no promotion, +1lv league, if 2nd season,+2lvls... Or, if +120% +1lv, if +140, +2lvls... Till +3lvls...

[pcmacdaniel]

Another option would be, no promotion, +1lv league, if 2nd season,+2lvls... Or, if +120% +1lv, if +140, +2lvls... Till +3lvls...

Khris, those proposals would lead to punishing the innocent.

Under the first scenario, a manager that takes a break from top eleven for a couple season, no login, no farming, genuinely does not play for a couple months. They could be stuck as a 5* team in a league with several teams around 140% because of playing +2 levels.

Under the second scenario, there will be several token buyers and free players playing in 1+ level league.

[khris]

Khris, those proposals would lead to punishing the innocent.

Under the first scenario, a manager that takes a break from top eleven for a couple season, no login, no farming, genuinely does not play for a couple months. They could be stuck as a 5* team in a league with several teams around 140% because of playing +2 levels.

Under the second scenario, there will be several token buyers and free players playing in 1+ level league.

We are always in circles.... because, if I use tokens, so I spend, the game itself punishes me decreasing the AvQ of my team, if I face in the league, teams of a similar avq... too if I buy the team at the beginning of the season it feels like a robbery because I can spend 50, 100 or even 200euros in a team that next season, for sure will play +1 levels, in cup maybe +2,3.. ... and equal avq teams again...


If, to keep a quality in relation with the 80% market, doing it like now when the +100% teams face a CL of +1 level, then, good teams are punished.
If, theres a tanker or token buyer, playing in the league of many managers, it is unfair, because..¿? ohh option 1, he pay tokens and I won't to be with him, or, -ohh, to save $$$ and dont spend tokens but keep the team alive, he tanks, Im so happy for him cause he saves money but, I won't him in my league, "because tanking is cheating" ,,, ye, then we go again with that not valid argument xDDD

Then we can say, oke, keep the levels, no league +1L, cl+1 etc but merge the non promoted teams and make them play together, and we will see a load of arguments too xDDD

Punish, bad.
Allow, bad.
that's the final conclusion :')

[Reece p FC]

We are always in circles.... because, if I use tokens, so I spend, the game itself punishes me decreasing the AvQ of my team, if I face in the league, teams of a similar avq... too if I buy the team at the beginning of the season it feels like a robbery because I can spend 50, 100 or even 200euros in a team that next season, for sure will play +1 levels, in cup maybe +2,3.. ... and equal avq teams again...


If, to keep a quality in relation with the 80% market, doing it like now when the +100% teams face a CL of +1 level, then, good teams are punished.
If, theres a tanker or token buyer, playing in the league of many managers, it is unfair, because..¿? ohh option 1, he pay tokens and I won't to be with him, or, -ohh, to save $$$ and dont spend tokens but keep the team alive, he tanks, Im so happy for him cause he saves money but, I won't him in my league, "because tanking is cheating" ,,, ye, then we go again with that not valid argument xDDD

Then we can say, oke, keep the levels, no league +1L, cl+1 etc but merge the non promoted teams and make them play together, and we will see a load of arguments too xDDD

Punish, bad.
Allow, bad.
that's the final conclusion :')

at least you're staying positive lol

[rogerniceguy]

Quite purely for me a football game where people deliberately lose is not really a football game. It's just a resource management game currently

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