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rogerniceguy Game engine change? 07-26-2018, 03:26 PM
nikolgiorgos This thing changed many... 07-26-2018, 03:44 PM
rogerniceguy Yeah I agree just seems to... 07-26-2018, 04:08 PM
nikolgiorgos yes, if you 're not watching... 07-26-2018, 04:50 PM
USARABAT got a 0-0 against a team with... 07-29-2018, 07:48 PM
Lukáš Ledecký So I've already had a loss... 07-31-2018, 09:09 PM
lalexrus you are a bit wrong, today... 07-26-2018, 04:50 PM
nikolgiorgos a "well trained" team (:p)... 07-26-2018, 04:56 PM
madflo19 I guess this doesn't happen... 07-26-2018, 07:18 PM
rogerniceguy Will make the assists... 07-26-2018, 04:52 PM
rogerniceguy Okay maybe move my post to... 07-26-2018, 07:05 PM
Morph55 lost 0-3 with 133% vs 81%... 07-26-2018, 07:13 PM
Iridensys Every season is worse. ... 07-27-2018, 03:30 PM
pcmacdaniel Something feels different. ... 07-26-2018, 09:16 PM
Reece p FC I don't know if the server... 07-27-2018, 06:54 AM
rogerniceguy I think it's just random. As... 07-27-2018, 07:43 AM
rogerniceguy Today 2 2 in league. Me 117%... 07-27-2018, 08:12 PM
Der_Ryan_M I lost 3 and draw 1 of the... 07-28-2018, 09:20 PM
Gabez Teh Yesterday lost against 30%+... 07-29-2018, 09:46 AM
Der_Ryan_M Association working normal... 07-29-2018, 03:12 PM
rogerniceguy Lost in league v 24% weaker.... 07-29-2018, 04:16 PM
nikolgiorgos well, random/troll/fixed... 07-29-2018, 05:35 PM
pcmacdaniel Very strange results in... 07-31-2018, 10:38 PM
nikolgiorgos So this last guy-friend from... 08-01-2018, 06:02 PM
pcmacdaniel Yup. Nordeus has crossed the... 08-02-2018, 09:54 PM
Tactician Maybe some 'baba's' effect? ;) 08-03-2018, 07:34 AM
Iridensys Another ridiculous draw... 08-03-2018, 08:25 AM
Tactician From my experience, 'losing... 08-03-2018, 10:00 AM
Ποσιδονας What are you saying... 08-03-2018, 12:05 PM
Der_Ryan_M Results keep being strange.... 08-04-2018, 09:50 AM
USARABAT Changes in the engine result ? 08-14-2018, 03:34 PM
pcmacdaniel It changed towards the end of... 08-15-2018, 09:36 AM
Tactician I think the most important... 08-17-2018, 06:17 PM
pcmacdaniel It's the bolded thing I... 08-18-2018, 10:02 PM
nikolgiorgos two threads merged sorry... 08-15-2018, 12:31 PM
pcmacdaniel Nik, have you been playing in... 08-15-2018, 01:05 PM
mcdoomer Not that its proof of... 08-18-2018, 05:09 PM
nikolgiorgos yes, one of my teams is in... 08-15-2018, 04:55 PM
Tactician As a manager of a football... 08-17-2018, 06:46 PM
madflo19 Normal "mutants" (1% grey... 08-18-2018, 07:54 PM
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    two threads merged
    sorry @USARABAT but it's the same subject and conversation
    Read also previous posts about it

    but the skills matter less.
    don't know how simple is to do that with this game engine (I mean the version we have the last 2-3 years with Unity)
    and don't know how reliable is a conclusion about this.
    I mean, there are so many factors that differ from season to season
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    Nik, have you been playing in platinum for assoc?

    It's obvious something has changed. Just from my association alone, in the last 3 months we've witnessed 2 vietnamese mutant associations finish 4th. One of them entered the tourney #91 in the world and still got 4th. And both have to lost to an opposing assoc that is very average quality wise. That assoc was top team viet nam, I think bunzo's assoc played them a couple weeks ago.

    As for my team, 11-4-5 in last 20 assoc. 32-3-4 in previous 39 assoc games (all platinum). Faced more strong opponents in that 39 game stretch as well. Tactically, my system still seems to be working, as I can still spot the impact of my changes in the ratings. But far less room for error. If my reads are slow or I get confused, the opponent is much more likely to punish me for it. Same thing occurred for a few weeks immediately after the new training roled out then it stopped until the beach competition update.

    Unfortunately, if one is not in platinum and does not have mutant players it's less noticeable. Below Gold 1, it rare to have mutant vs. mutant matchups. And in CL and cup, we aren't really tested often until late in the season. If at lower levels, might not be tested at all.

    It's enough to convince me that what has happened is a mutant nerf (either a flatlining of the skills or weighted less) which has a side effect of hurting those without mutants, such as scout buyers. I'm guessing nordeus doesn't have a clue what to about the mutant problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel View Post
    Nik, have you been playing in platinum for assoc?

    It's obvious something has changed. Just from my association alone, in the last 3 months we've witnessed 2 vietnamese mutant associations finish 4th. One of them entered the tourney #91 in the world and still got 4th. And both have to lost to an opposing assoc that is very average quality wise. That assoc was top team viet nam, I think bunzo's assoc played them a couple weeks ago.

    As for my team, 11-4-5 in last 20 assoc. 32-3-4 in previous 39 assoc games (all platinum). Faced more strong opponents in that 39 game stretch as well. Tactically, my system still seems to be working, as I can still spot the impact of my changes in the ratings. But far less room for error. If my reads are slow or I get confused, the opponent is much more likely to punish me for it. Same thing occurred for a few weeks immediately after the new training roled out then it stopped until the beach competition update.

    Unfortunately, if one is not in platinum and does not have mutant players it's less noticeable. Below Gold 1, it rare to have mutant vs. mutant matchups. And in CL and cup, we aren't really tested often until late in the season. If at lower levels, might not be tested at all.

    It's enough to convince me that what has happened is a mutant nerf (either a flatlining of the skills or weighted less) which has a side effect of hurting those without mutants, such as scout buyers. I'm guessing nordeus doesn't have a clue what to about the mutant problem.
    Not that its proof of anything, but for the first time in the last 11 seasons my family asso wont be Platinum. Missed it by 9 points. Last 2 seasons were very atypical and most of our players are scout buys or "natural mutants" (2-3 star players with top skills at 200-250+ and rest as 1%, just because they are 28+ yo and been in the team since academy). We had more 4th places last 2 seasons than in the previous 10. We were never 4th for a very very long time, and since June results are being crappier with no good reason, as we keep winning trophies otherwise. Just asso results being hurt.