[Official] Team Play Bonuses - 8th of April

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

Guys, try this. I got my team starters to TPB 10 (from 8) in 7.5 condition but need to use the 2x videos twice.

Use vids both times
Warm Up x2 Video x2 and Skill Drill x2 (Cost 4.5 condition)
Warm Up x1 Video x1, Skill Drill x2 (Cost 3 condition)

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I got from 8 to 10 just by using the 3 very easy x 3, and that's without the x2 bonus as I haven't been able to get that for a few weeks now after the Greens pretty much stopped. :(
Skill drill, warm up, video analysis (2.25 condition), repeat 3 times, total loss 6.75 condition

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Originally Posted by milpol

Definetly 6

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Id say 2

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Originally Posted by gogs67

I got from 8 to 10 just by using the 3 very easy x 3, and that's without the x2 bonus as I haven't been able to get that for a few weeks now after the Greens pretty much stopped. :(
Skill drill, warm up, video analysis (2.25 condition), repeat 3 times, total loss 6.75 condition

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nice! lemme try that tomorrow :)
is the exact sequence skill drill warm up then video analysis?

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Originally Posted by MNK Kaskada

Guys, how would you grade this update from 1 to 10. 1 means that this is idio... update and 10 means wonderfull.

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I would rate it an 8 as it gives active players an edge. And at a cost of 6.75 condition per player. It isnt much if i can really see a difference against strong inactive teams.

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

nice! lemme try that tomorrow :)
is the exact sequence skill drill warm up then video analysis?

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Not sure if the sequence makes any difference. I'd say no but can't be 100% sure as the margins will be so small as difficult to notice

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Originally Posted by gogs67

Not sure if the sequence makes any difference. I'd say no but can't be 100% sure as the margins will be so small as difficult to notice

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noted with thanks. it makes a difference for my 6.75 routine. so just checking. :)

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Originally Posted by gogs67

I got from 8 to 10 just by using the 3 very easy x 3, and that's without the x2 bonus as I haven't been able to get that for a few weeks now after the Greens pretty much stopped. :(
Skill drill, warm up, video analysis (2.25 condition), repeat 3 times, total loss 6.75 condition

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I can't repeat this result unfortunately. Tried it with my first team who have already done a 6.75% set today, and the three at 2.25% still didn't get any of them up to 10% Team Play bonus. I'll try again tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by gogs67

Not sure if the sequence makes any difference. I'd say no but can't be 100% sure as the margins will be so small as difficult to notice

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At least for the team bonus it makes difference. And as this new bonus is made up up from the team bonus probably it's true for the new one too.

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Originally Posted by gogs67

I got from 8 to 10 just by using the 3 very easy x 3, and that's without the x2 bonus as I haven't been able to get that for a few weeks now after the Greens pretty much stopped. :(
Skill drill, warm up, video analysis (2.25 condition), repeat 3 times, total loss 6.75 condition

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Mate, i had to do it six times instead of 3. My training level is max as well. Can anyone else try this and verify

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Originally Posted by Ludo_Mansio

I can't repeat this result unfortunately. Tried it with my first team who have already done a 6.75% set today, and the three at 2.25% still didn't get any of them up to 10% Team Play bonus. I'll try again tomorrow.

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This was my worry.
My 1st team may not have been at exactly 8%, there's no way to tell.
If they were at say 8.25% when i started then it would obviously take less to get them to 10%

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

Mate, i had to do it six times instead of 3. My training level is max as well. Can anyone else try this and verify

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Yeh, like my post ^, obviously my team were somewhere above *8 when I started. Gonna take a few days to figure exactly how much it takes

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Originally Posted by MNK Kaskada

How come 4-6% while I was playing and 10% after [emoji52]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4c4137e1d4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9e7e900048.jpg

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Train only your reserves I guess

I Love it, WHO are not happy, be more creative....

We are the managers right

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Originally Posted by gogs67

This was my worry.
My 1st team may not have been at exactly 8%, there's no way to tell.
If they were at say 8.25% when i started then it would obviously take less to get them to 10%

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Darn! i was really hoping it would work :)

@MNK Kaskada

After your screen shot yesterday, i checked mine earlier. Mine was fine. Exactly what training percentage i had. Think you should write to support

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

Mate, i had to do it six times instead of 3. My training level is max as well. Can anyone else try this and verify

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Maybe depende on what kind of players are training

In this update....
I have in mind in the future to play...
If we don't have enough capital to compete in a full season, is it the best season to release?
Where in the season we release we collect enough capital to compete fully in one season..

🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

I don't know it's good or bad for what happens to all managers later...

it looks like, the tanker manager will be even more and more..... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Does watching a video double these bonuses too?

Yes it works. Read the posts, there are some very good training suggestions

So far I think the best method is to train the old bonuses like before with your bench.

And then do 3 times (or 2 if you want to use a video) warmup - warmup - skill drill - skill drill - video - video for 4.5% with the starting lineup.


PS - I really like the new profile pictures we can select. Now you are able to hide your facebook profile pic in TE for other managers.

I forgot all about the profile picture option. Was so fixated on the TPB. Just changed mine, good to have this option!

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Originally Posted by a.gavrilin

Some words about my 1st experience of this "visual feature" - yeah, I really call it visual feature just like arrows or special ability or foot/height because imho it has no impact on gameplay.

So I trained ALL my players to 10% except 1 AML who I was going to train with personal training sessions (btw training only 1 player doesn't give him any team play bonus but I think you have already noticed it). So this player remained with 0 bonus

So the results of the first match is that this new player with 0 bonus became the man of the match with 9.6 mark scoring 1 goal and making 2 passes. From the rest of the team the 2nd best mark was 8.3

The game ended 5-0 against absolutely abandoned bot with 60% difference between us. And till 78th min the score was only 2-0.

So let's assume that this is one more useless update made for 2 reasons:

1. to take away our green packs
2. to distract our attention from more serious problems like troll results and transfers, like, come on guys, just look how good we are - we are making a lot of changes to the game

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I 'm more close to this philosophy.
I 'll stick to the basics of game and some daily routine. The 4X10% training with sets.
As I don't pay much attention anymore to win bonus or if morale drops or if GK is important for the game or why my ST doesn't score.
Maybe in asso games, in platinum or top100 teams games has some role or drops the performance of mutants when they don't have full 10% but I don't care for that.

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Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M

What happens if you don't update your version? Is it still a factor?

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I didn't update on Android until this morning. Expecting to find all my players with 6% imagine my surprise that they were all at 8%.

Seems to be that if you don't update your players don't lose 2% every day.

Which means that abandoned teams will be doing no work to maintain player bonuses at 8% whilst the rest of us are spending rest packs like crazy to get a 2% advantage.

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Originally Posted by SausyFC

Hi Managers,

With this release we are introducing a completely new type of training bonus called Team Play Bonus.

The introduction of this new bonus is to build on football reality; players that train together ahead of matches will benefit from the added work and experience with one another. Solid team play is built on the training ground by training players together.

Every player from your team can earn their Team Play Bonus only by participating in group training sessions. Team Bonuses will still be earned the same way.

As you know, Team Bonuses are increased after training specific drill types with correct positions for that specific Bonus (Attackers for Attacking, Defenders for Defence, etc). Team Play Bonuses for participating players will increase after every training session in which at least one of the Team Bonuses would increase.

Team Bonuses, earned from collective training sessions, give a boost to players' performances during matches, and thus, players on the pitch with high Team Play Bonuses will have a stronger benefit from the Team Bonuses.

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did you guys even think about this new bonus much? First problem, right off the bat: your "algos" are written for profit, not realistic gameplay. What about those "players" which the "engine" chooses for Every game? Are they punished for playing? That's exactly what you did, punish the guys playing the games.
Just trained, as normal with entire team, all "starters" the game wants to play, are at 30% with two hours before game time and NO 3 hr booster before... I'm screwed.... Thanks!

Update: also, what about those 4 games in 24 hours schedules.... Just say forget the Bonuses?... Why not fix the "in game issues" already talked about constantly in here? BEFORE MAKING NEW PROBLEMS?.... I would "think" common sense would be to make the game entertaining, not frustrating... Don't you want people playing? This is saying "if your not going to give us money, don't bother".... Understand?

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

I 'm more close to this philosophy.
I 'll stick to the basics of game and some daily routine. The 4X10% training with sets.
As I don't pay much attention anymore to win bonus or if morale drops or if GK is important for the game or why my ST doesn't score.
Maybe in asso games, in platinum or top100 teams games has some role or drops the performance of mutants when they don't have full 10% but I don't care for that.

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So here is the 2nd game experience of my cup game (lost the first match 3-2). Once again whole team with full team play bonus and my new AML with 0%. This time I won 5-1 and the new guy got 10.0 mark scoring 3 goals and making 2 passes. Once again he is the man of the match.

Actually I had a lot of doubt even with the previous bonus system if it was working or not, for example my 1st match against the same opponent in the cup that I lost, or my 2 last games in the champions league - the opponent is 1 level and 42% worse than me, not active (most probably even bot). I came with full +15% support in addition with +10% team bonus and +42% difference but still lost both games 2-1 and 0-1 and the strangest thing is that he had all the stats better than me including ball position in both matches (48% against his 52%). Btw after the server merge in the start of the season I do experience some strange things with stats when, for example 60% lower bot having 80%-20% ball posession in my favour manages to make twice as much shots/shots on goal than me - but this is absolutely different story.

Here for some report regarding team play bonus, its really awesome and working really great, i cant believe it, i hold off many strong opponent, draw against two 100% opponent in league and draw against 90% in cup match! Awesome bonus!



Oh btw My team rate is 120% cheers!

Am I the only one who likes new team bonus, thats the way to train team. I watch vids and then use the greens and it works really good, top of the table with many teams better % than me. All I hear from you is complain and when ever you post screenshot i see like 1k,2k,3k greens, I have 1(one) spent 24 from this mourning

well with this update we need to spend more greens


x2bonus(2 vids) 2 times whole team cost 2x6.75 (1 green pro player)or 6 hours 12%

before you could train main and reserver separately cost 6.75 (3 hours 6%) 10% teambonus


Training:warmup/stretch/piggy in the middle/video analyse/pas and shoot/skilldrill cost 6,75

But with the 24 hours policy(waiting for vids ) its a pain in the ass if you have matches in the morning


Greeting Buster

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Originally Posted by Flow

Oh btw My team rate is 120% cheers!

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The above sentence in white is the best🤣
Made my day.
Cheers

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Originally Posted by dareng

Am I the only one who likes new team bonus, thats the way to train team. I watch vids and then use the greens and it works really good, top of the table with many teams better % than me. All I hear from you is complain and when ever you post screenshot i see like 1k,2k,3k greens, I have 1(one) spent 24 from this mourning

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Yup i like it too. I always like changes that in some way reward active users. It will not always be effective and we still get trolled but at least we have this option to train. Inactive players train nothing and win but i like to think the odds are against them a little more with this. Anyway it is now part of my daily routine. It isnt that bad after we get used to it and make use of videos for double effect.

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Originally Posted by Altiplano

I didn't update on Android until this morning. Expecting to find all my players with 6% imagine my surprise that they were all at 8%.

Seems to be that if you don't update your players don't lose 2% every day.

Which means that abandoned teams will be doing no work to maintain player bonuses at 8% whilst the rest of us are spending rest packs like crazy to get a 2% advantage.

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Maybe i should take what i said back. This also means inactive users who are less likely to update and log in will forever have 10% while we train like crazy just to match them. This isn't right.

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

Maybe i should take what i said back. This also means inactive users who are less likely to update and log in will forever have 10% while we train like crazy just to match them. This isn't right.

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Hi all, To clarify. Just as Team Bonuses decrease by 2% with Daily Update every day, Team Play Bonuses do the same. So a club that doesn't train wouldn't ever have anything above 0 regardless of whether or not they updated.

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

Yup i like it too. I always like changes that in some way reward active users. It will not always be effective and we still get trolled but at least we have this option to train. Inactive players train nothing and win but i like to think the odds are against them a little more with this. Anyway it is now part of my daily routine. It isnt that bad after we get used to it and make use of videos for double effect.

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Previously active managers (I assume) used different drills for each player/position to maximize the training gains for their starting XI. Now we are forced to do the same warmup/skill/video training for the whole squad that every semi-active manager has always done to get the bonuses to 10%. So I'd argue the old bonus system rewarded (semi-) active managers over inactive ones. This new bonus system rewards semi-active over active.

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

I forgot all about the profile picture option. Was so fixated on the TPB. Just changed mine, good to have this option!

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well the option is quite ****e tbh, with only 4 option being
1) default male photo
2) default female photo
3) a hand and a ball photo
4) no11 jersey.

but the change name option is good. now the manager can have stars and weird character as their name! lol

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Originally Posted by jarharnamme

well the option is quite ****e tbh, with only 4 option being
1) default male photo
2) default female photo
3) a hand and a ball photo
4) no11 jersey.

but the change name option is good. now the manager can have stars and weird character as their name! lol

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Well, we used to have nothing so it's still an improvement :)

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Originally Posted by skrrr

Previously active managers (I assume) used different drills for each player/position to maximize the training gains for their starting XI. Now we are forced to do the same warmup/skill/video training for the whole squad that every semi-active manager has always done to get the bonuses to 10%. So I'd argue the old bonus system rewarded (semi-) active managers over inactive ones. This new bonus system rewards semi-active over active.

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I feel active managers will still train and do whatever we have to do to increase or maximise our chances of winning. By semi active, i assume the player logs in once evry few days or once a week, he will probably be on the guaranteed 28 tokens selection and will train only when he logs in. I really do not see how such players have an advantage over us active players that do everything we need to do.

I can tell you are an active player since you feel forced to do the additional training. We really don't have to. Its our choice how much we want to do. We can continue to train the usual bonuses and not train TPB. Especially against weak teams, why bother. But lets say if the opponent is strong but inactive, this is when all these extra bonuses come in handy.

I really do not see how it is a bad thing as it is optional.

Still don't see why we can't choose our Goalkeeper jersey like we can with the outfield players...

If there was a need to fix in a more realistic way training issues then additional rules should apply, which I don't thing that apply right now.

1) Training bonus should be a multiplier of footballers involved. Eg. if 4 players give 1% then 8 players should give 2% and 12 players should give 3%
2) Training bonus should be lost every three hours, like resting recovery, and not 2% alltogether every morning.
3) Training bonus should be directly related to training effort of training session. If a training session is reducing 6% the condition (rest) of a player, then a 12% effort session should give double training bonus.

Three games with new Team Play Bonus, each game 10-10-10-10 Team bonus, every player 10% Team Play Bonus, Very Good or better morale, 85% or better condition. Each game I attended, none of my opponents attended:

First game: 1-1 away Draw. Me: 97.6% vs 49.6% inactive league opponent. 64% - 36% possession advantage, 24 - 11 shots, 7 - 3 shots on goal. Opponent's 40% GK made 4 saves.

Second game: 0-1 away Loss. Me: 97.6% vs 87.3% inactive CL opponent. 60% - 40% possession advantage, 18 - 16 shots, 6 - 8 shots on goal. Opponent's 80% GK made 5 saves.

Third game: 0 - 0 home Draw. Me: 97.6% vs 91.0% active league opponent, 54% - 46% possession, 14 - 9 shots, 2 - 5 shots on goal, opponents 104% GK made 2 saves.

Small sample size, I know, but three games with the new bonuses maxed out and the only goal I've scored was against a team 48% below me. Not a fan of this so far.

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Originally Posted by TropikThunder

Three games with new Team Play Bonus, each game 10-10-10-10 Team bonus, every player 10% Team Play Bonus, Very Good or better morale, 85% or better condition. Each game I attended, none of my opponents attended:

First game: 1-1 away Draw. Me: 97.6% vs 49.6% inactive league opponent. 64% - 36% possession advantage, 24 - 11 shots, 7 - 3 shots on goal. Opponent's 40% GK made 4 saves.

Second game: 0-1 away Loss. Me: 97.6% vs 87.3% inactive CL opponent. 60% - 40% possession advantage, 18 - 16 shots, 6 - 8 shots on goal. Opponent's 80% GK made 5 saves.

Third game: 0 - 0 home Draw. Me: 97.6% vs 91.0% active league opponent, 54% - 46% possession, 14 - 9 shots, 2 - 5 shots on goal, opponents 104% GK made 2 saves.

Small sample size, I know, but three games with the new bonuses maxed out and the only goal I've scored was against a team 48% below me. Not a fan of this so far.

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I don't pay attention to this update. I will never use this feature as i don't believe it has any impact at all. The same with the other bonus. As far as i know, if i attend a game i win with 2 0 or 3 0 if i dont attend i win by 7 goals margin or more. :)). I believe they are only for cosmetic purpose, and what really matters is how well trained your player is.