My Question is what decision could Nordeus potentially make that would put he Final nail in the coffin and make you quit?
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My Question is what decision could Nordeus potentially make that would put he Final nail in the coffin and make you quit?
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If you had to pay to play.
If I had to pay or if I kept losing
Lol hope not. We do support them by watching videos. It's funny that they limit it though. Most games wants users to watch as many as possible
There used to be a huge discrepancy in how many videos and of what type players for different regions could watch. It caused a massive disadvantage to some and a huge advantage to others.
At one point you could even watch vids for tokens, some players were saving up thousands whilst others had nothing, so I guess the limit was to try and level the playing field so to speak.
You guys are lucky that Top11 are F2P and friendly towards free player.
Compare Top11 to other mobile games that use P2W model/gacha games, Top11 is too generous!
Heck the mutant & manipulators also have guts to say that Top11 shouldn't fix bugs that give them advantages (mutant, friendlies MoM +4% etc)
And that's why I don't mind losing to wallet managers, managers who buy tokens because their money help game developer pay their staff salaries.
Here an example of football manager game that P2W/gacha game.
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• If they changed the TE manager icon from Mourinho to Trump.
• If I have to pay to remain competitive
• If monthly events continue to give insulting prizes
• If farming takes up even more time
@jarharnamme
Most games are pay to win so TE is by far one of the best. No complains.
@gogs76
i would rather have the limit. There is no way to way to be competitive as some have alot more time than others
@Max
There would no need for plus 1 cups and Cls if thats the case. no more tanking as well probably
I did it but came back. Why? Coz this (sh1t) is a dope, damn ;)
Why i left? Coz had mutantish players and lost statistically too many times in certain game period.
Calmed down learned from that. As in IRL had experienced so many lessons recently (work, relationships, self-improvement etc).
tl;dr: chill and have to take/accept losses is the new way to processing things. :)
Btw: I'm even accept losses/troll results but guys this 24h rule for video watching is STILL LAAAAAAAAAME! :D
I agree with your last 2 points, but why would they do the first one, Trump doesn’t have anything to with football, Most likely I would say they would endorse him to try and get him to tell people to download it.
But I’d say they would stick to football managers.
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I need to learn to accept the troll losses, I won the treble last season, the league, CL and Super Cup but got about 3 trolls.
I am still sticking around because the game is actually still good and their is no better football manager game rather than maybe Football Manager but you have to pay for it so you can download it.
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There are different types of users - the big token buyers, the medium ones, the small ones and the ones that do not make any money purchase, but what most of those users play this game for? Mainly for fun and entertainment, except those few 'farmers' that do blackmarket business by selling accounts.
The main reasons for quitting are expected be the same. It is when the game is no longer enjoyable on overall - when the negatives outweighs the positives. It might be also a matter principles as some users after having seen the scammy sides of the company might opt to stop because it is against their principles to support a company behind such acts. Then comes to how much can a user play (and achieve) with the resources he can have from the game itself, which comes to the what like some users previously said in this thread they will quit if they cannot play this game for free. I think this is like an indirect blackmailing message. ;) In fact, no one has played this game for free as such. There is still the cost of internet, the cost of the device and the effort that has to be put in for the offers and so on.
Briefly, a user will quit when on overall it is no longer worth it for him to continue to play.
I may be in the minority but when I play this i'm at the computer anyway so no extra cost there, and all the vids are not actually watched, I just click on them as I'm doing something else, no time wasted!
Now, the transfer market is another matter...........trying to do other things and keep an eye on that........hmmmm
As I said I am finishing up, I got loads of 10#% stronger teams so this will be great fun, hopefully I can beat a few.
I have played the game Since March 3 2017, during different stints and I will quit on December 7th 2019 when this season ends.
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Well, my message to users is that as long as the positives or lets say the benefit outweighs the negatives, that is the fun and entertainment they get outweighs the cons, and as long as it is not harming anyone significantly, they can continue. There are many users out there that are still having lots of fun and they do not seem to get affected much by the cons (maybe some do not even know about the cons). As for my case, I have reached to a point where playing this game is no longer worth it; it does more harm than good to me. The game has become very inconvenient, too frustrating and time consuming (especially the market and in finding the desired players), requiring too much effort (it has become more like a job but one that I pay to do instead of getting paid), ****ty Unite Against Giants event.... the scammy ways of the company, the direction they are going.... so many significant negatives all together that outweigh the fun and entertainment that I can still have. I took the best decision for my case and each should take the best decision for his case. Take into consideration that there comes a point when enough is enough (beyond acceptability and tolerance).
What would make you leave TE?
If nordeus will decide to promote all the teams every season (to face the problem with the tankers)
I 'm out.
I 'm a hardcore player, playing for 3-4 cups every season but I like to take a break from time to time.
This is my season 71 and I 'm LV58, so stayed 13 times on purpose in the same level.
I 'm gonna do that for the next 2-3 seasons.
Without the option to stay season, I will feel satiated and gonna stop soon.
Yeah, I would say that nordeus shows big "disrespect" to token buyers.
For example a team I have permanently in LV15, every season is playing in the Cup with an opponent from LV14 with a 11* team :p
He has 32 cups so far.
Every token buyer who 's passing from those 1-2 levels (14-15), knows that he won't win the Cup.
To be honest, the cup is not my main priority to win, my main trophy to go for is the CL, then the league and then the cup, I now I got to 4 cup finals in a row and won 3 in a row, but that is because I actively take part in every competition and I won’t purposely drop out.
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You are not a token buyer.
Please tell me how to win finals. My team has lost 4 finals in a row, and my team almost certainly starts blipping from semi final 2. I have tried everything from defensive to hard attacking. But in defensive I don't score and get eliminated in penalties (happened twice) and in attacking both of us score and he gets freakish long distance goals post 80 mins(happened twice). Its like a horror show on repeat.
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I have 9 trophies of coming 2nd in 5 seasons (excluding the first season where is started very late) only 2 of winners. (League cup n cl included)
I'll share what DID make me leave since I did leave for 5 months before returning 6 seasons ago.
The reason I left was the engine not rewarding me for my hard work. I do not know what was going on but the update I left on the devs decided to add an upset factor to help smaller, noob free-to-play teams, have a chance against pay to win teams or experienced free to play teams that manufactured a quality team (me). It would run the simulation in their favor giving your team random red cards and unusual performances such as your ST missing goals after dribbling around the GKer. So basically I got to a point where I was tired of watching ads for free rests, farming free packs, training, and staying up late to attend matches just to lose when the other manager isn't even there and their team is 30% less than me. And all the Assistant manager would say was "the difference is they took their chances" or "tough day" or my favorite "we just couldn't upset the favorites." ...The favorites. I had to quit.
I am in my last season for all of these reasons, I don’t watch ads anymore because it is boring, I won the treble last season, I am finishing up this season, it is annoying when your team gets red cards out of nowhere and when your ST is through on goal and he plops it over the bar.
All of your points are valid
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If the free videos would stop, hence youd have to pay to get any success.
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Max I would leave when there is no fun left in the game.
You asked previouly if Nordeus listen to the users here in the forum, if i were them it would be very hard I see many good ideias here but people have a very sentimental reaction to the game allways talking about troll results and how they attacked more and lost...
We should stick together and point out exaxtly what's wrong!
Mutants - Balance between gray and white
Tankers - How to stop them
Game engine - The influente that players position, support, training, etc should have on the game vs surprise factor
Negotiations
We should give a direct feedback toghether we can make the game better
I would consider leaving if there was a decent alternative, but I don't think there is.
I agree with others, if there's no enjoyment left in the game for you then it's time to leave. I've seen people get way too serious about it.
Goodbye.. Hopefully enjoy your days ahead... 👋🤧
I will keep playing and see what the TE2020 looks like.. ☕