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    If we buy 4 star young FTs, it only cost 30 plus greens to train a 50 SA with world class regimes. We should also try to use those drills which the player has low skills. I think it isn't costly if keeping player for a 5-6 seasons. I can't tell it is effective but I have been playing without SA and support and do ok. I read there is an effect but is minimal. But alot of things have minimal effect but might be substantial when combined.

    SA, bonuses, attendance, support, morale, condition have all been said to have only a little effect but when you have it all. It might just be what helps you beat a troll result for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillybq View Post
    If we buy 4 star young FTs, it only cost 30 plus greens to train a 50 SA with world class regimes. We should also try to use those drills which the player has low skills. I think it isn't costly if keeping player for a 5-6 seasons. I can't tell it is effective but I have been playing without SA and support and do ok. I read there is an effect but is minimal. But alot of things have minimal effect but might be substantial when combined.

    SA, bonuses, attendance, support, morale, condition have all been said to have only a little effect but when you have it all. It might just be what helps you beat a troll result for example.
    You are very correct there on possible effects.

    The effect of each is indeed minimal. If to be put in chances, maybe that SA would be ‘activated’ once every match only, or even not at all. Bonus, attendance, support and morale probably makes a few % difference on its own.

    When playing against weaker opponents, our team should be good enough to create and take enough chances to win handsomely most of the time.

    But when against similar or slightly stronger opponents on paper, if adding those benefits altogether, they may provide the very tiny edge, say scoring an extra away goal and somehow win an unfavourable tie.

    That also helps in troll games as you suggested (extending our advantage even further and somehow overcome the bad roll of dice).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillybq View Post
    If we buy 4 star young FTs, it only cost 30 plus greens to train a 50 SA with world class regimes. We should also try to use those drills which the player has low skills. I think it isn't costly if keeping player for a 5-6 seasons. I can't tell it is effective but I have been playing without SA and support and do ok. I read there is an effect but is minimal. But alot of things have minimal effect but might be substantial when combined.

    SA, bonuses, attendance, support, morale, condition have all been said to have only a little effect but when you have it all. It might just be what helps you beat a troll result for example.
    Pretty sure that SA are cosmetic or have a very small effect in game, also suspect that the 10% bonus thing is a myth and doesn t work also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    Pretty sure that SA are cosmetic or have a very small effect in game, also suspect that the 10% bonus thing is a myth and doesn t work also.
    Alot of people say that. But when I look at the some of the very successful managers through associations. Their players all have SAs. Small effect but 30 plus greens isn't much when you average out over 5-6 seasons. since it doesn't cost much to train, why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillybq View Post
    Alot of people say that. But when I look at the some of the very successful managers through associations. Their players all have SAs. Small effect but 30 plus greens isn't much when you average out over 5-6 seasons. since it doesn't cost much to train, why not?
    At the lower levels the 30 greens is quite something, it s not that i can t afford but i don t see the point of it.Might do it later, but for now i don t see any effect with or without them.
    Once i had a godly team, even godlier than what i have now 123% quality, all with SAs and i couldn t get through the CL groups because 2 oppos were 1 lvl higher, and similar or under my quality with no SA and they both went through.
    So what s that all about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    At the lower levels the 30 greens is quite something, it s not that i can t afford but i don t see the point of it.Might do it later, but for now i don t see any effect with or without them.
    Once i had a godly team, even godlier than what i have now 123% quality, all with SAs and i couldn t get through the CL groups because 2 oppos were 1 lvl higher, and similar or under my quality with no SA and they both went through.
    So what s that all about?
    Yeah, SA’s are cosmetic in my opinion, the only ones that ever worked for me were, shadow striker on an AMR/AML and the Free kick worked on an ST or an MC


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    Quote Originally Posted by Max McClean View Post
    Yeah, SA’s are cosmetic in my opinion, the only ones that ever worked for me were, shadow striker on an AMR/AML and the Free kick worked on an ST or an MC


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    Hmmm, not sure about that. I always see the defensive wall, aerial ability, corner, playmaker, shadow striker and FK SA icons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillybq View Post
    Hmmm, not sure about that. I always see the defensive wall, aerial ability, corner, playmaker, shadow striker and FK SA icons.
    And for what purpose? The same thing triggers when they head the ball away from their box without any SA.
    Keepers save penalties without having that SA.
    Corner i am not that sure about it but as long as your players have high passing and crossing he should play the same.
    And FK is 50/50, you either believe it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    At the lower levels the 30 greens is quite something, it s not that i can t afford but i don t see the point of it.Might do it later, but for now i don t see any effect with or without them.
    Once i had a godly team, even godlier than what i have now 123% quality, all with SAs and i couldn t get through the CL groups because 2 oppos were 1 lvl higher, and similar or under my quality with no SA and they both went through.
    So what s that all about?
    It's true what you mentioned. It's a small effect so we can't count on it to guarantee us anything. Anyway, you played long enough to see alot of undeserving semi active teams beat strong active teams right? We can't beat what the game engine wants.

    For training SAs, I think it not about low level. It's about world class training and choosing the drill which the players has the lowest skill. I followed one of the guides. I can't rem which one it was now. I think I used press the play which was my only world class at that time and I used it on attackers with very low defensive skills. I only bought 2 18 year old FTs attackers this season due to budget constraints early this season.

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