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    Help on Champions league final

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    This is the team of my opponent. What formation should I use? Both of us have equal quality teams.

    https://ibb.co/T4Z4bWd

    This is my team. I play both 4 1 2 2 1 and 4 2 3 1. In 4 2 3 1 I normally playing attacking ,high press, short pass, man to man, no counter football. Its opposite in 4 1 2 2 1. I play defensive, mixed pass, low press, zonal marking.

    Now tell me people what should I use tomorrow?

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    Replace the out-of-position player, or change your formation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guido van den Berg View Post
    Replace the out-of-position player, or change your formation.
    can't, he plays better in midfield than in attacking midfield. He has won me quite a few matches from midfield. Thus am training him midfield position too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narrative writer View Post
    can't, he plays better in midfield than in attacking midfield. He has won me quite a few matches from midfield. Thus am training him midfield position too.
    For finals, we all send out our best players to try to get an advantage over the opponent. Playing an out-of-position player in a CL final and expect to win is pretty unimaginable, to be frank.

    And training SA should have been done using greens at the start of season as it is the most effective. Those % gained in attributes during the season is best to widen our existing advantage over those typically aging squad of over 25yo, and having no real gain in SA with training at all during the season vs some 15% each gained by 18-21yo is really a waste.

    Could not view your sub bench so do not know what other positions you have got. Suggestion here is 4-3W-2-1 (if you only have 1 good ST) or 4-4-2. Equal quality opponent you could pack the midfield instead of playing an extra an unneeded DMC when you already have 4 defenders vs their 3 attackers.

    Good luck with your CL final!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavensAAA View Post
    For finals, we all send out our best players to try to get an advantage over the opponent. Playing an out-of-position player in a CL final and expect to win is pretty unimaginable, to be frank.
    My experience tells me otherwise i've played against a team with two players out of position and lost :S of course its just one case, usually it should happen as you say.Help on Champions league final-2019-10-10-jogadores-fora-de-posi%C3%A7%C3%A3o-mesmo-assim-derrota.jpg

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    There seem to be much stronger players on your bench. Can we have a look at your full team so we can better advise you? Overall quality is very important. As what HeavensAAA mentioned, its better to put your best team. Unless the 5 star player sitting at DMC is a mutant, he shouldn’t play.

    If i had to choose between the 2 options you mentioned. I go with 4-2-3-1 with the orders you mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narrative writer View Post
    https://ibb.co/yX0hjb0

    This is the team of my opponent. What formation should I use? Both of us have equal quality teams.

    https://ibb.co/T4Z4bWd

    This is my team. I play both 4 1 2 2 1 and 4 2 3 1. In 4 2 3 1 I normally playing attacking ,high press, short pass, man to man, no counter football. Its opposite in 4 1 2 2 1. I play defensive, mixed pass, low press, zonal marking.

    Now tell me people what should I use tomorrow?
    I can wildly confirm that it doesn t matter what formation you have in the finals, it s all about the average quality.
    Line up your best 11 and you should do the best you can.
    I m still around, LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeavensAAA View Post
    For finals, we all send out our best players to try to get an advantage over the opponent. Playing an out-of-position player in a CL final and expect to win is pretty unimaginable, to be frank.

    And training SA should have been done using greens at the start of season as it is the most effective. Those % gained in attributes during the season is best to widen our existing advantage over those typically aging squad of over 25yo, and having no real gain in SA with training at all during the season vs some 15% each gained by 18-21yo is really a waste.

    Could not view your sub bench so do not know what other positions you have got. Suggestion here is 4-3W-2-1 (if you only have 1 good ST) or 4-4-2. Equal quality opponent you could pack the midfield instead of playing an extra an unneeded DMC when you already have 4 defenders vs their 3 attackers.

    Good luck with your CL final!
    https://ibb.co/RvHVDbj

    This is my normal formation 4 2 3 1 with attacking, man to man, short, no counters.

    On certain days I play a 4 1 2 2 1 with my dmc and amc playing as mc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Narrative writer View Post
    https://ibb.co/RvHVDbj

    This is my normal formation 4 2 3 1 with attacking, man to man, short, no counters.

    On certain days I play a 4 1 2 2 1 with my dmc and amc playing as mc.
    Thanks for the image with additional bench info.

    If deciding on only quality, like Sillybq as mentioned, 4-2M-3-1 attacking middle seems the most logical option for you. Your setup is definitely spot on.

    If I were your opponent, looking at your squad (with the limitations of your first-11 having no natural 3 MCs or ML/MC/MR combinations), I would also use his same 3-1DM-3W-3 against you attacking flanks with 3vs on both sides. Your CL match will likely be one with lots of shots and even perhaps a cricket score if both sides are taking chances. Just a bit worried if your 2MC midfield could hold out in case either get an early yellow though.

    With the added bench, you are definitely correct to train up the AMC with the MC position, but should complete it at the start of next season with greens if you could save up from now. Your DMC/MC could then stay at MC for a 4-3-2w-1 or move back to become a typical 4-5v-1.

    All the best of luck there!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillybq View Post
    There seem to be much stronger players on your bench. Can we have a look at your full team so we can better advise you? Overall quality is very important. As what HeavensAAA mentioned, its better to put your best team. Unless the 5 star player sitting at DMC is a mutant, he shouldn’t play.

    If i had to choose between the 2 options you mentioned. I go with 4-2-3-1 with the orders you mentioned.
    this is my main team

    https://ibb.co/RvHVDbj

    Orders

    Attacking
    Short
    Mixed pass

    Offside on
    Man to man
    Hard tackle

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