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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    Now manipulate ratings and invest for CL finale.
    Hi Khris, can i learn how to manipulate player ratings and for whose benefit is that ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiKo View Post
    Hi Khris, can i learn how to manipulate player ratings and for whose benefit is that ?
    Simple, to have a "ratings push" in a finale, you need to synchronize as many players as posible with a rating drop.
    If, a player had a 8-7-8-8-6, and you have like -League and CL finale- save him to keep that 6 drop until the finale, so he'll probably earn a push. You can ofc. set one who got a 10 to drop intentionally his rating playing without condition and a wrong setting.

    Some poeople, too, sets a FA game with a -30% condition player so the game is cancelled and this seems to reset the ratings to lower ones.

    The variations affect the upcoming match scenario, so you can, at some point control who will have a chance to be determinant by forcing the engine, to select him for a posible push, like for example, a Key player usually gets 2-3 Max ratings... max is 9-10 (are the same both), so, if, a key player got 9-8-10-9-10 after the streak of 3 max rating syou can expect a drop, meaning this that the engine will not select him to be determinant in the next game. So in this case, you need to force the engine to keep saved a previous lower rating than this 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    Simple, to have a "ratings push" in a finale, you need to synchronize as many players as posible with a rating drop.
    If, a player had a 8-7-8-8-6, and you have like -League and CL finale- save him to keep that 6 drop until the finale, so he'll probably earn a push. You can ofc. set one who got a 10 to drop intentionally his rating playing without condition and a wrong setting.

    Some poeople, too, sets a FA game with a -30% condition player so the game is cancelled and this seems to reset the ratings to lower ones.

    The variations affect the upcoming match scenario, so you can, at some point control who will have a chance to be determinant by forcing the engine, to select him for a posible push, like for example, a Key player usually gets 2-3 Max ratings... max is 9-10 (are the same both), so, if, a key player got 9-8-10-9-10 after the streak of 3 max rating syou can expect a drop, meaning this that the engine will not select him to be determinant in the next game. So in this case, you need to force the engine to keep saved a previous lower rating than this 10.

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    Lol. I love your discussions and experiments about game that are very deep everytime i feel like i was reading books written by J. R. R. Tolkien.

    Now i want to look at it the other way, Normally it's an advantage if you follow your main opponent's fixture a week behind in real football. Because you probably play game in next week with a team which got beaten up pretty good and demoralised by the main oppo. They would be pushover on the pitch then i understand it works vice versa as usual in this game. You should expect better result for yourself if your opponents played very well in their last games. Very interesting.

    What about on fire morale status ? Lets say the player has ratings in order of 8-10-9-10-6. Next game is easy and the following game is tough. Why don't we let him play in easy game and firing his morale up for next tough game ? On fire is not working or On fire is determined and restricted by the rating system you talked about it ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiKo View Post
    Lol. I love your discussions and experiments about game that are very deep everytime i feel like i was reading books written by J. R. R. Tolkien.

    Now i want to look at it the other way, Normally it's an advantage if you follow your main opponent's fixture a week behind in real football. Because you probably play game in next week with a team which got beaten up pretty good and demoralised by the main oppo. They would be pushover on the pitch then i understand it works vice versa as usual in this game. You should expect better result for yourself if your opponents played very well in their last games. Very interesting.

    What about on fire morale status ? Lets say the player has ratings in order of 8-10-9-10-6. Next game is easy and the following game is tough. Why don't we let him play in easy game and firing his morale up for next tough game ? On fire is not working or On fire is determined and restricted by the rating system you talked about it ?
    I believe that the game creates scenarios selecting few factors to be determinant. I listed all factors in some guide -spanish forum. and are too much to be considered all at once.
    So, first, before the match starts, the game does a players simplification, selecting 6-7 players to be determinant for the match, based on different factors like the rating variabilities. This create the sensation of different situations between one and another game, because the scorer can change, assistant too, etc
    And once the simplification has beed done, the game uses the "starting settings" to determine which options are and which aren't determinant, then, the determinant ones are set in ON/OFF meaning that for example, long passing can be set in OFF, so probably in this case, if I start mixed as usual, I will loose some balls, so I'll have to switch to short.
    Same with the flank etc you can notice which is the right mentality and flank following the possession bar, which are the main source of information, followed by % efficency and ratings.
    So the morale, as the condition, and all factors which can be determinant, can "matter or not", so set in OFF perfectly, meaning this that you can occasionally win a game without condition.

    Then you have to remember that the game creates 2 situations for each team, one attending and another without, usually, giving a ยท"secure" when you don't attend, which stabilizes the simulation for who don't attend -for good or bad- so Local team can have a supposed value of 4 attending 7 non, Visitor 8-5 creating this, different "favourite variables".
    But the most important all managers need to know, is that this is like a puzzle game, not a 1vs1 tactical game, and is based in scenarios affected by different determinant factors that can be resolved always, except when the AvQ distance between 2 teams is too high to overcome the margins of performance of the oppo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    I believe that the game creates scenarios selecting few factors to be determinant.

    all factors which can be determinant, can "matter or not", so set in OFF perfectly, meaning this that you can occasionally win a game without condition.
    Are the formations still determinant in this game or not ? My oppo. has started using strange formation and seems working well. Do you have any idea what's it for ? or @Arphaxad was right to quit from the game ?

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