Quote Originally Posted by Gomes182002 View Post
It's not only about playing actively lol u need to manipulate a lot to to be able to win a quadruple.For example I've been now playing actively for the last 11 seasons without manipulation and I've won the easy cup in the first season I returned next season I won the super league and super cup which was slightly tougher but still easy(I was the best in the competition) and since then 4 league titles.the closes I've come to a champions league is semi finals.without manipulation winning the CL is as hard as it is in real life.the difference between a league winning team and CL one is minimum 10% and if u don't manipulate or tank u won't have enough resources to make a CL winning team or even a cup team for that matter.

So bottom line is manipulation is key to success in this game at least in my opinion.if u don't do it you'll end up with a trophy haul like mine instead of the Greeks
Precisely. I didn't want to mention about that leagues were much easier than CL in case I offend you but now that you mentioned it, spot on. My friends who all are non manipulators win leagues but face very unfair draws for CL and sometimes cup. It is a big issue that cause many players to give in and just manipulate. Until the underlying cause is fixed, many more will make the switch.