El nuevo torneo de asociaciones es pésimo , por mi parte ya no intégrare ninguna asociación y eh cedido mi capitanía a un compañero con más ganas , le quitaron la última diversión que le quedaba a este juego , entiendo que esto reduce la cantidad de tockens de premio y a la larga se apostará a un negocio más grande que será la adquisición de dichos tockens , señores no todo es negocio .
I think this is a heist, all teams that move up the division should be able to get the same rewards as before. In the new version, if I understand it correctly, if you do not remain among the 4 first no week you will not earn anything even if you go up because you are among the first 12
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Last edited by Tzzz; 04-28-2021 at 11:44 PM.
With limited info, it is difficult to judge how promotion and relegation would look like in the long run. Those numbers could easily change to accommodate on how prestigious it is to stay in ultimate and diamond divisions.
Platinum, now being the 3rd tier from the top, is definitely overcrowded when it comes to a pyramid structure. Therefore, it makes sense to reduce the number of platinum teams. The 2 common ways of doing it: 1) Quickly push up some of the platinum associations to fill in the top 2 tiers in Ultimate and Diamond, so the numbers of that 2 tiers are more quickly filled up to make it looks balanced; 2) Slowly filter up the best associations who can be top 8 of any 64-asso group and gradually get the numbers up
Most managers probably want to see the first way of doing it as we all want more T-rewards ASAP, and rightly so; but then when doing that, it is also likely to be criticised by some managers, who may be platinum association’s captain or vice captains, that they were hugely and disproportionately punished for having one poor league position finishing in last season, plus it would simply look like filtering some into the top 2 tiers as a cosmetic move instead of the advertised in really highly competitive association fights for the top rewards.
The new version definitely awards the winners and also comforts the losers (in the sense that they would still get 4x weekly T-rewards even if they unluckily loss against very strong opposition with very unlucky draws, instead of getting 0T when relegated), and so would mostly irritate those who could finish more in 2nd or 3rd who regularly receives 100T in surviving in platinum. Different reactions would come from these 3 groups, understandably.
Too early to judge before any draw is made. Personally, I will wait for a few seasons before giving a final comment.
Winning is a form of art. Consistently winning is a show-hand of skills and luck.
I don’t need your opinion for now. I understand that you did not make up your mind about good/bad, fair/unfair.Originally Posted by HeavensAAA
But please help me understand the promotion / relegation for this season a bit better. What is your association level? How many teams are promoted / relegated from your leader board?
It's the same for everyone, in plat 8 go up and 24 go down.
I think in lower leagues more will be promoted.
For what the info is available, within every 64-asso draw, 8 teams (top 1/8) will be promoted to diamond, 24 teams (bottom 3/8) will be relegated to gold1 and the rest of 32 teams (‘middle 4/8) survives and stay in platinum. The grand point total accumulated at the end of a season of 4 rounds of ranking 1 to 4 would decide where we rank among the 64 teams in a draw, and would decide if we would be promoted, surviving or relegated.
Association level our association starts in this new FA system is the same as before new FA is implemented. ie. if we finished our last season within the platinum association requirement of 1350 points, then our association could start in the new system as a platinum division, which is the highest starting point possible.
The top 100 leaderboard will be concluded by end of season when 4 rounds of matchups are done, which in similar in terms of format. The major difference is it no longer used an accumulation of points before where our association carried 80% of those as part of the calculations, but instead every single season that base point will be reset to a 0, and so every season every team could have an equal fighting chance as no team would have any starting advantage (vs points accumulation from previous seasons in the old system).
Winning is a form of art. Consistently winning is a show-hand of skills and luck.
I read alot of comments of how the new associations targets tankers. i dont quite get how it will discourage tanking. Tankers can still tank and rejoin a season later with 3x multiplier. They never used to get any tokens the season they tanked anyway. They can just tank more and get a full 11 star team to make up for the additional season in limbo.
In fact now the opportunity cost is low for those needing a break or want to tank a few seasons. If you cant get into a diamond or ultimate association, it would only be a 40 plus tokens loss in platinum on average per season (assuming one wins enough to stay in plat). Tanking can gain us alot more from daily logins and stuff while saving alot of resources.
I think we cannot deny the fact that we get less tokens. Players in ultimate are going to be tankers or spenders. Its is just part of their move towards more profits. Nothing wrong with that but it sucks for us. I wont spend more than i can gain from associations so probably cant go very far.
If nik is tanking, that should be the way to go. It just shows how bad the issues are at the top of the server so best to avoid as long as possible. To me, he was and still is the most credible source of information. He encouraged saving rather than spending just to compete. The best lesson in the game is budgeting but tanking works too.
Last edited by Sillybq; 04-30-2021 at 04:38 AM.
But the problem is that your multiplier will be 1x and if you promote every season in top 3 of League it will be 3x... so that will be a big difference in the amount points a FA can make.....
So for me in the Top there will be more people who spent real money and also people who are really smart too use their resources they get for free from the daily loginetc.
Depends on the individual, i know you tanked and play mostly for associations so thats your motivation. I can see why you would think it is smart for a player to use their free resources to do well in associations. I feel events and associations are for us to earn resources not spend.
I think i know what you mean. I was focused on tankers not losing out in terms of tokens. But like you said, they lose out in term of participation. Previously they do not earn rewards but can help their association, now they cant do both.
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