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    4-1-4-1 is not 4-4-2 with a sweeper/DMC because DMC is not sweeper. Sweeper would fit in 1-4-4-1 with the sweeper playing lowest of defense not midfield. 4-1-4-1 is also not 4-5-1 they are similar but not the same. It's not popular in real life only used for defensive teams with lower quality. Teams like Liverpool, Chelsea or arsenal play 4-5-1 but all different formation. Arsenal more like 4-3-2-1 with cazorla as AMC and Walcott as amr. Liverpool is more like 4-2-3-1 and Chelsea is like 4-5-1 V.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyros View Post
    like i said my friend, no amc available :/
    Try get one for one token if you can. Having all positions is good as you can play with any formation

    If not then play 3N-3W-1-2W-1

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    Quote Originally Posted by dv8r View Post
    If not then play 3N-3W-1-2W-1
    3W are dml /dmc /dmr ? Could use that but it seems too much defensive. Another problem I face is that my dml and dmr have even less quality, few games played and average performance 6.

    Quote Originally Posted by shwanko07 View Post
    played this formation and beat him 3-0 away easily
    played 4-1-4-1
    with LM (up) and AMR
    sure my full backs, DMC had (up) too
    counter , flanks, long
    4-1-4-1 is a formation that fits my team as I favor it a lot.... can you be a more specific concerning match instructions(passing,mentality) ?

    Quote Originally Posted by shwanko07 View Post
    why using AMC when he is weaker at flanks .. attack flanks like i did
    beat home and away comfortably
    I am very strong at wings, this is what Im after with a proper formation!

    Quote Originally Posted by fmldotcom View Post
    You lost 2-1 away, that's an advantage. You have 49% possession despite he has 5% advatantage of possession at home. How are you being outplayed? Just by looking at the information you provided I can tell his team has slight quality overall better than you and he's more confident than you since he's taking the attack approach. your formation is nothing wrong but gives you no advantage.
    My team overall quality is at 5 stars (51) while his at 4 stars (46,6) but his starting eleven quality almost match mine. He is slightly inferior but plays very offensive...
    I am most worried about game engine tricks, 2 away goals would finish me off. I am looking for a formation to dominate attack while at same time have minimum risks at my defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dv8r View Post
    Try get one for one token if you can. Having all positions is good as you can play with any formation

    If not then play 3N-3W-1-2W-1
    I ve made up my mind, will play with 1 mc like you suggest and we ll see what happens. Its just another match after all, you guys were right, I was worried too much :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyros View Post
    I ve made up my mind, will play with 1 mc like you suggest and we ll see what happens. Its just another match after all, you guys were right, I was worried too much :P
    so its

    DC DC DC
    DMR DMC DML
    MC
    AMR AML
    ST
    This is what you going for? I really hope you win and all but Park is 3 star, if Mascherano is not injured any more you better off with

    DR DC DC DL
    DMC
    MC ML
    AMR AMC
    ST

    Not only you can fill all your top players you can attack front and flanks giving you more option.

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    played this formation and beat him 3-0 away easily
    played 4-1-4-1
    with LM (up) and AMR
    sure my full backs, DMC had (up) too
    counter , flanks, long
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    You lost 2-1 away, that's an advantage. You have 49% possession despite he has 5% advatantage of possession at home. How are you being outplayed? Just by looking at the information you provided I can tell his team has slight quality overall better than you and he's more confident than you since he's taking the attack approach. your formation is nothing wrong but gives you no advantage. You basically went for man for man in every part of the pitch. He has 5 attackers vs 5 of your defenders and you had 3 attackers vs 3 defenders. only difference is when he attacks he can dribble shoot or pass to the left and right while you run to the byline to cross or cut inside, he has more options than you. you don't need an AMC or whatever. Use your strongest quality and attack him. either use another mc to control midfield, or use 2 St to give more attack, don't believe that bs you need a DMC because he has AMC, if you follow all that basically you always on the defensive mode. sure you might worry and think you are outnumbered in defense but at the same time you outnumber him on his side of the pitch. To be safe play with 2 DMC and sacrifice either aml or amr after you score. If you follow those rules of man for man marking defense against this

    St St St
    AMC AMC AMC
    Mc

    DL. DC. Dr

    My guess is you play this

    Dr dc DC DL
    DMC DMC DMC
    Mc mc

    St
    Or opting for an AMC instead of mc? The ball will be down your pitch most of the time buddy

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    You mostly played 1ST why you have 2 sub ST? Same with having 3 mc as subs. Should trade them for sub mr/amr and AMC. Good team though! Anyways, if you are better quality why you play defense? Why always 10 players on your end of the field? (5 of his and 5 of yours). If I were you I put silva back in defense instead of pique because not only you have aerial powers overall back 4 is better. Put kaka in to dictate midfield, keep everything same. If mascherano can be healthy then put robbed as AMC and play asymmetric formation with 4-1-2(mc + ml)-2(AMC+amr)-1.

    Btw why you name players in unnatural positions?

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    if you are better quality why you play defense?
    I never said i played 1 leg with defensive mentality.. it was attacking with normal passing...

    If I were you I put silva back in defense instead of pique because not only you have aerial powers overall back 4 is better
    I would too, if only he wasnt in such bad form. His stats atm are like 5-6-6-7-5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyros View Post
    I never said i played 1 leg with defensive mentality.. it was attacking with normal passing...


    I would too, if only he wasnt in such bad form. His stats atm are like 5-6-6-7-5.
    He has bad form playing in defense or midfield? 6 is acceptable. 7 is good, 8 is excellent, 9 is amazing. 5 is unacceptable but look back to those games and see why.

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