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nikolgiorgos The new league draw system 06-12-2015, 06:39 PM
nikolgiorgos Let's see some examples my... 06-12-2015, 06:42 PM
nikolgiorgos Some tips We can keep in... 06-12-2015, 06:43 PM
Agger99 Why should we buy after 3rd... 04-29-2018, 05:12 PM
Buffs Mad While I won't rule out... 06-12-2015, 07:46 PM
talisman Another fr'instance, my... 06-12-2015, 08:51 PM
Blackkiwi I'm not sure either. I know... 06-12-2015, 09:05 PM
Buffs Mad I've trawled through some... 06-13-2015, 08:30 AM
Cat Harrison Not new...... 06-13-2015, 09:14 AM
nikolgiorgos It's not new to be in a very... 06-13-2015, 05:38 PM
Buffs Mad Yeah I know about Q and my... 06-14-2015, 12:32 PM
cookizzz So far I notice that average... 06-17-2015, 05:04 AM
Awe Imoleayo Peter Me too 05-07-2016, 10:57 PM
nikolgiorgos Do you mean that for 3 cons.... 06-17-2015, 06:49 PM
cookizzz I think so. Both my teams... 06-18-2015, 03:10 AM
pcmacdaniel After looking how the... 06-17-2015, 10:07 PM
Blackkiwi @pcmacdaniel Cup is purely... 06-17-2015, 10:53 PM
pcmacdaniel I fooled the cup draw. When... 06-17-2015, 11:01 PM
Blackkiwi I decided to start that last... 06-17-2015, 11:19 PM
Cat Harrison I do think when the system... 06-18-2015, 02:22 AM
Blackkiwi So in theory you could buy 20... 06-18-2015, 05:05 AM
pcmacdaniel The cup draw only takes in... 06-18-2015, 05:31 AM
cookizzz One of my friends can now use... 06-19-2015, 03:44 AM
nikolgiorgos This is another team from my... 06-19-2015, 03:22 PM
nikolgiorgos Taking a look at some teams... 06-19-2015, 03:15 PM
t11_fan Interesting thread, I've... 06-19-2015, 03:32 PM
nikolgiorgos Another thing is that the... 06-19-2015, 06:46 PM
nikolgiorgos So, I 'm wondering why to... 06-30-2015, 04:02 PM
nikolgiorgos I cannot agree with your... 06-19-2015, 06:38 PM
nikolgiorgos So lv14 and it seems that the... 06-30-2015, 03:51 PM
Buffs Mad Oops, just realised I posted... 06-30-2015, 04:02 PM
nikolgiorgos also with 3* players you 'll... 06-30-2015, 04:52 PM
Blackkiwi Here's mine. I'm getting... 06-30-2015, 11:16 PM
Buffs Mad Relegation can't work with... 07-01-2015, 11:20 AM
Tactician Maybe some rules need to be... 07-01-2015, 04:29 AM
pcmacdaniel I'd think a weighted system... 07-01-2015, 11:12 PM
Buffs Mad Bit late to do this one on... 07-02-2015, 12:30 PM
Blackkiwi I love the name haha. But... 07-02-2015, 10:49 PM
nikolgiorgos it's not only that. So far,... 07-02-2015, 02:34 PM
talisman Here's my Level 23 League... 07-02-2015, 09:55 PM
Buffs Mad oops sorry for the blunder... 07-02-2015, 10:58 PM
nikolgiorgos Maybe I should change the... 07-30-2015, 06:48 AM
USARABAT :D I think we should revive... 01-06-2018, 08:23 AM
khris Well as I've mentioned in the... 07-30-2015, 08:24 PM
Gabez Teh ok here is mine... ... 07-31-2015, 05:25 AM
nikolgiorgos So, after I changed the... 08-04-2015, 06:45 PM
Gert Funck 51211 08-04-2015, 07:47 PM
nikolgiorgos haha, not this time. This is... 08-04-2015, 08:22 PM
Gert Funck arrrh maan, I don't have that... 08-04-2015, 08:24 PM
nikolgiorgos yes, you 're right. I got a... 08-08-2015, 11:04 AM
Gabez Teh That's preposterous... come... 08-16-2015, 06:50 PM
nikolgiorgos According to that thread ... 08-15-2015, 07:54 PM
mmunger That table is insane. Four... 08-18-2015, 08:53 PM
nikolgiorgos this game was in post #47... 08-18-2015, 09:11 PM
mmunger I don't get how that other... 08-18-2015, 09:24 PM
nikolgiorgos Analysis part 1 - my league ... 08-19-2015, 03:19 PM
nikolgiorgos Another experiment for me is... 08-19-2015, 03:54 PM
Gert Funck Those invalid pictures again... 08-21-2015, 09:12 PM
nikolgiorgos ok, fix them and this is how... 08-21-2015, 09:42 PM
BeckStar Not so new for me.. Been like... 09-09-2015, 09:48 PM
Gabez Teh once worked for me ... before... 09-10-2015, 10:31 AM
nikolgiorgos Well, it started at season... 09-10-2015, 07:28 PM
nikolgiorgos This season, for my team NIK... 10-30-2015, 08:31 PM
Arion I tend to keep my entire... 10-31-2015, 01:02 AM
nikolgiorgos I can handle my team (all, I... 10-31-2015, 11:12 AM
nikolgiorgos this is my league day 18... 11-07-2015, 12:15 PM
nikolgiorgos I 'm playing in the final 8... 11-07-2015, 12:06 PM
nikolgiorgos Level 17 this season. I... 12-10-2015, 06:05 PM
Matteo de Clemente Hi, league draw procedure... 12-11-2015, 12:30 PM
nikolgiorgos Finishing this season, I... 01-09-2016, 10:22 AM
sincity That is no unfair from... 01-09-2016, 05:52 PM
Duncton Did some checkups this season... 02-06-2016, 03:28 PM
nikolgiorgos there are two kind of leagues... 02-06-2016, 08:06 PM
cookizzz I agree for you except for... 02-07-2016, 01:57 AM
nikolgiorgos Tanking is a way of "defense"... 02-07-2016, 06:33 AM
cookizzz I don't want to argue about... 02-07-2016, 10:47 AM
cookizzz Sorry for extra reply. To... 02-07-2016, 01:04 PM
Arion There are some naughty... 02-07-2016, 02:54 PM
nikolgiorgos There is no reason to... 02-07-2016, 01:26 PM
nikolgiorgos LV20 and I 'll post another... 04-30-2016, 06:20 PM
nikolgiorgos I also check some teams from... 05-06-2016, 06:16 PM
nikolgiorgos forgot to post the achvm... 05-06-2016, 06:18 PM
nikolgiorgos LV21 and another league with... 05-06-2016, 05:54 PM
Andrew Nifield I wish mine was the same,... 05-06-2016, 06:08 PM
nikolgiorgos you can build a "competitive"... 05-06-2016, 06:42 PM
Duncton I get a little sad every time... 05-06-2016, 06:34 PM
nikolgiorgos If they continue this silly... 05-06-2016, 06:45 PM
Tactician Nordeus will tell you they... 05-08-2016, 05:22 PM
nikolgiorgos I started this thread last... 05-08-2016, 06:40 PM
Tactician Users of such teams are... 05-08-2016, 09:23 PM
pcmacdaniel I'd argue that by lumping all... 05-08-2016, 11:02 PM
Tactician There is one thing that you... 05-09-2016, 08:59 AM
pcmacdaniel We must be on very different... 05-09-2016, 03:10 PM
nikolgiorgos . This season I had two... 05-09-2016, 02:49 PM
nikolgiorgos Day 7 The beauty and the... 05-09-2016, 08:45 PM
nikolgiorgos and with that way, that... 05-31-2016, 09:01 PM
madflo19 The same here,i have in my... 06-01-2016, 08:16 AM
Arion I have 6. But then I also... 06-01-2016, 10:14 AM
Besmir Rossoneri one on one strikers sucks... 06-02-2016, 04:21 AM
nikolgiorgos * you 're of topic here ... 06-02-2016, 01:26 PM
nikolgiorgos ok, for second season we 're... 06-30-2016, 05:26 PM
nikolgiorgos It's the third (new draw)... 07-26-2016, 05:48 PM
Cholo Simeone All teams in my League are... 08-25-2016, 06:07 AM
Al Svanberg Its the same for me in league... 08-25-2016, 11:45 AM
nikolgiorgos I also have weak teams in my... 08-25-2016, 06:54 PM
HairDryer i have a tough league and... 08-25-2016, 07:16 PM
khris added in the index* ... 01-06-2018, 05:35 PM
nikolgiorgos well, this thread is old so... 04-29-2018, 06:08 PM
Agger99 Well I got couple of 110%... 05-01-2018, 04:16 AM
skolin_84@yahoo.com This game bullshit.. only... 11-10-2018, 04:37 AM
skolin_84@yahoo.com From now I not by any token ,... 11-10-2018, 04:39 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel View Post
    I'd argue that by lumping all "serious" users into one league, Nordeus creates one of two scenarios.

    Scenario 1: One token buyer is more dominant than the rest and the resulting scenario is one where coiners either scale back or stop buying and in some cases even abandon their teams.

    This scenario has initial gains in revenue as coiners will spend more to try and compete against other coiners. You'll see a battle for 1st, involving multiple 7* teams. But the heavy coining only last until it becomes apparent that one coiner has the upper hand on the other, whether it be due to outspending them or being more skilled.

    I've seen this scenario unfold multiple times.

    Scenario 2: The market is saturated with coiners, so the amount of parity leads to no one dominant team, hence different champs over several different seasons. Since buying tokens isn't equating to trophies, managers scale back on funding nordeus.

    This creates the problem of tanking token buyers as well.

    Basically, my argument is quality based league draw create short-term revenue growth but over the long-term, that growth might not last.
    There is one thing that you need to consider though. It is extent of how much the serious users are addicted to this game. So, Nordeus will likely to profit from the drawing systems in this game for both League and Cup, even in the long term until most users are able to see things like you said in scenario 1 and in addition to that, they are able to fight their addiction and other related imperfections. You can compare the role of this game like that of a drug.

    Most mid-level leagues for serious users will likely consist of 6-7 star teams and some 5 star teams. If ever there is an 8 star team in there, it will be likely that the managers of the 7 star teams will push their team to 8 stars if they feel there is a need for more quality to be able to be among the top 4. Who wins significantly in this case? Nordeus.
    It will be very rare that a 9 star team will be added to such leagues; but, this will more likely to happen in the very high levels. So, the serious users (the majority) won't be discouraged so much that they will abandon. Take into account that their addiction and so on will 'force' them to keep on playing, and even 'force' them to up the quality of their teams because those managers want to win.

    Also, take into consideration that users on this forum here only represents a minority of the users of Top Eleven. Many users don't much about the game other than things like 'throwing' a lot of tokens to get the best players on the market, thinking that in doing so they will be able to win a lot or things like that.
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